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·All Omega Swiss made watches.....have some parts that were outsourced in another country. IMO
Seamaster 300 movement from 60''s
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·Oh.......I see. Omega has outsourced but the none the less by Omega standards......should make no differance........still Omega genuine,
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It is genuine and there is no doubt about it. Omega quality control is still there, definitely. I think it is already embedded in my mind, Omega must be Swiss and nothing else.
Just like a watchco dial, even though it is accepted as a service dial and genuine Omega part, will enthusiasts and collectors recognize them as an Omega, the way it used to be?
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·Respectable Member Seamonster......Well......they must except that..... when it comes to all parts.....(it's not all Swiss and never has been) Truth be told that all the jewels in all the Omega watches made....did not come from Swiss soil. Just a crude obvious truth....that's it. A made in America automobile has parts from a dozen countries.
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·All Omega Swiss made watches.....have some parts that were outsourced in another country. IMO
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Agree, some of the movement parts are already outsourced and there must be reasons, for doing this. A day may come when 100% of the parts will be produced in third-world countries.
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·Ahhhh.......I see what you mean. I even imagine that if the parts of the oldest vintage watch by omega could speak.....they may have a multitude of languages.📖
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·Respectable Member Seamonster......Well......they must except that..... when it comes to all parts.....(it's not all Swiss and never has been) Truth be told that all the jewels in all the Omega watches made....did not come from Swiss soil. Just a crude obvious truth....that's it. A made in America automobile has parts from a dozen countries.
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More than likely, the Swiss got the jewels from specialist-producers abroad because they wanted the best for their watch movements. Currently outsourcing parts is a cost-cutting measure and not because production workers or craftsmen in third-world countries are found to be better than the Swiss.
As long as Rolex, Patek Philippe and a handful of other Swiss watch manufacturers are still above water, they will never outsource. They have their pride of being Swiss, in terms of precision.
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·Respectable Member MyVintageOmega
More than likely, the Swiss got the jewels from specialist-producers abroad because they wanted the best for their watch movements. Currently outsourcing parts is a cost-cutting measure and not because production workers or craftsmen in third-world countries are found to be better than the Swiss.
As long as Rolex, Patek Philippe and a handful of other Swiss watch manufacturers are still above water, they will never outsource. They have their pride of being Swiss, in terms of precision.
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··Ash @ ΩFI'am astonished if Rolex and Petek Philippe did not outsource some part's.......we may be surprised📖
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·Ahhhh.......I see what you mean. I even imagine that if the parts of the oldest vintage watch by omega could speak.....they may have a multitude of languages.📖
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I totally agree with what you said, I think before the Swiss swept the market, the masters in watchmaking came from France, England and the US, etc. The Swiss might have got parts from those foreign countries and had to pay more, unlike today when outsourcing means, paying less.
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·Rolex outsourced until only just recently, their dials used to be made by Singer, Stern Frères, and many others, the movement factory was only recently bought out and they've used many casemakers over the years, as have Patek
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Agree, they outsource for their cases, bracelets and precious stones setting, etc, to specialist makers and craftsmen, all within Switzerland and not third-world countries.
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··Ash @ ΩFRespectable Member dsio
Agree, they outsource for their cases, bracelets and precious stones setting, etc, to specialist makers and craftsmen, all within Switzerland and not third-world countries.
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·Ahhhh.......I see what you mean. I even imagine that if the parts of the oldest vintage watch by omega could speak.....they may have a multitude of languages.📖
Well supposedly they smelt their steel in Sweden... may not be third world but they eat rotten herring in tins called "Surströmming" so it doesn't sound overly civilised in the land of vikings.
Well supposedly they smelt their steel in Sweden... may not be third world but they eat rotten herring in tins called "Surströmming" so it doesn't sound overly civilised in the land of vikings.
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I think Sweden have high quality iron ore deposits, amongst the best in the world. On top of this, the Swedes have the technical know-how to produce quality steel, since generations ago.
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··Steve @ ΩFSome Omega and Rolex parts have recently been out sourced from the outer solar system. 😜
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·Some Omega and Rolex parts have recently been out sourced from the outer solar system. 😜
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This is understandable.
It is agreed, outsourcing to third-world countries is a cost-cutting exercise but when the finished product is offered for sale, in many instances the recommended retail price is so high, as though those items were actually 100% produced and assembled in Switzerland, where labor is expensive.
Of course business is there to make money but do share the savings with consumers.
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··ΩF InvestiGatorOf course business is there to make money but do share the savings with consumers.
Respectible Member Seamonster -
Let's see if I understand you correctly...You are proposing that businessmen (Swiss or otherwise) pass on savings from outsourcing manufacturing to consumers?
You are kidding, right? 😜
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·Respectible Member Seamonster -
Let's see if I understand you correctly...You are proposing that businessmen (Swiss or otherwise) pass on savings from outsourcing manufacturing to consumers?
You are kidding, right? 😜
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Yes, you are spot-on.
I do not expect the whole lot of the savings to be passed on to consumers but at least a portion of it, as a sweetener. Of course, I understand this is wishful thinking.
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·I do not expect the whole lot of the savings to be passed on to consumers but at least a portion of it, as a sweetener. Of course, I understand this is wishful thinking.
You're from Planet Utopia, aren't you? 😜 I knew there was something different about you. Here on Earth, prices don't go down until an item or brand is not selling at all - then it's close-out mark-downs to raise capital for the next big item.
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·You're from Planet Utopia, aren't you? 😜 I knew there was something different about you. Here on Earth, prices don't go down until an item or brand is not selling at all - then it's close-out mark-downs to raise capital for the next big item.
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That being the reason, I can never get into business. Surely the business will collapse, in no time.
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·Respectable Member ulackfocus
That being the reason, I can never get into business. Surely the business will collapse, in no time.
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Respectable member seamonster, I know you try to find 'perfect' Seamaster 300 M with big triangle.
Just cross this ad in Chicago Craiglist that may interest you http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/jwl/3420221475.html
I am no expert in testing authencity so I leave to other members to give their valuable comment........
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·Respectable member seamonster, I know you try to find 'perfect' Seamaster 300 M with big triangle.
Just cross this ad in Chicago Craiglist that may interest you http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/jwl/3420221475.html
I am no expert in testing authencity so I leave to other members to give their valuable comment........
Respectable Member Privateday7
I appreciate your directing me to the link. I am sure it is a lovely watch.
Unfortunately, I have already closed a deal to buy an Omega Seamaster diver model reference 166.024 with big triangle and date. This watch was referred to me, by an expert of vintage Seamaster diver watches, who co-incidentally is also a respectable member of this forum. Otherwise, I would brought the referred item to the attention of other respectable forum members in this forum, for their opinions.
God willing, I will have this factory-original example on my wrist, late next week. When it is with me, I shall take more pictures of the watch, to share with other respectable members here, who are into vintage Seamaster diver watches.
Once again, I thank you and also, other respectable forum members for their invaluable advice and concern. Otherwise, I would have already landed with a dud, some while ago.
(This is the picture of my soon-to-be princess. Credit: Respectable seller.)
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