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  1. Rick T Dec 1, 2014

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    I recently acquired the vintage Seamaster and everything looks great except i'm no sure if the dial is original. I cannot find another example with this dial configuration. Help!

    Is this a real Omega dial? (SWISS MADE @ 6)

    Regards,

    Rick T

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  2. Rick T Dec 1, 2014

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    Another picture

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  3. TNTwatch Dec 1, 2014

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    Looks like a 14755 dial.
     
  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Dec 1, 2014

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    Choice is either redial or a fake dial.
     
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  5. Zuke Dec 1, 2014

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    Definitely looks fake to me, and a bad one at that
     
  6. Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Dec 1, 2014

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    The markers are not long enough for 14755 dial.
     
  7. TNTwatch Dec 1, 2014

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    Does the 14755 on the page below have a fake dial too?
     
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  8. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Dec 2, 2014

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  9. TNTwatch Dec 2, 2014

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  10. TNTwatch Dec 2, 2014

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    This logo and font type were introduced with the 165.024 so this dial could also be a transitional for the 14755. Just my guess of another possibility, unless someone provides a more reliable source to say otherwise.
     
  11. Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Dec 2, 2014

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    TNT, my mistake. Thx for posting image.
     
  12. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 2, 2014

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    Fake Dial
    Look at triangle plots
    They are not centered. Not Omega quality at all.
    The printing(12,3,6,9, and Omega) is completely unlike anything similar
    of the period. But is like current fake Ranchero dials.
    Not like Railmaster, not like Ranchero
    not like Seamaster 300's.
    And the fonts in the bezel is not one I've ever seen.
    Too large
     
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  13. TNTwatch Dec 2, 2014

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    Is this your opinion or you have a source that says it's a fake dial? The camera's angle made it look off centered. The quality and everything else looks the same as the dial shown on the above page from Omega - A Journey Through Time and I have not found anyone saying it's a fake yet. It also appears on a few other SM300s, but inconclusive though.

    The bezel is the same as type D on this page: http://thatwatchandmore.blogspot.ca/2013/03/buying-vintage-omega-seamaster-300.html
     
  14. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 2, 2014

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    Of course it's my opinion.
    The markers are crooked. Whitespace is whitespace, angle doesn't change that
    The bezel is not the same as the review you referenced.
    Look at the top of the5 and look at the top of the 3
    Not the same
     
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  15. TNTwatch Dec 2, 2014

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    I do not see any crooked markers. Can you point them out? If you meant those at 4,5,6 and 7 then they are reflections/distortions by the edge of the crystal. I also see the font type as exactly the same as the one in the book.

    I do not see any difference between the 5s and 3s on the bezels either. In fact I see the OP's bezel as exactly the same as all the Watchco bezels. If this one is fake then all the Watchcos are fake too.
     
  16. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 2, 2014

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    When I say "crooked", I mean the marker is NOT lined up between the hashes,
    it's off center. 7,8,9,10,12
    The bezel fonts are not the same as any you referenced on that review of the 300.
    Just look at the loops in the 3. Not the same.
    And I never said it was Fake. I said it did not match any of the variants on that page.
     
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  17. TNTwatch Dec 2, 2014

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    I see what you mean. I still think those markers are not that off centered between the minute hashes since they are quite thick above the dial's surface and we're looking at an angle. The one at 12 may be because of the ageing lume changing its shape. Of course, it could very well be a fake or a redial if we could have a better look of its front and back.

    Regarding the bezel, I now also see what you mean about the loops. I've just looked around and found at least 2 other SM300 with the same things, one of which originated from Neil @flame (pictured on the first 2 links). It looks like there's another valid variance of these bezels.
    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f441/your-opinion-seamaster-300m-date-166-024-a-562392.html
    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...mega-Seamaster-300-including-Military-watches

    http://www.classicwatch.com/graphics/rx2726.jpg
     
  18. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 2, 2014

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    Ok one more comment then I'll leave this alone.
    I'm not convincing you it seems.
    Take the page you just sent me to.
    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f441/your-opinion-seamaster-300m-date-166-024-a-562392.html
    If it's the thick crystal or the angle distorting, then some of these dial markers
    should look off center to the hashes. But they don't...
    and that Big triangle is awful fresh looking compared to the rest of the
    watch. Milky white. Just sayin
     
  19. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Dec 2, 2014

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    And there are lots of redials in AJTT so the photo from the book doesn't mean a whole lot.
     
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  20. TNTwatch Dec 2, 2014

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    I've already admitted the possibility of fake or redial, I'm just not so sure. That watch was from Neil, he also posted it here on OF and it does show the marker at 9 as off centered in the picture below. It also has those pin holes and doesn't look too fresh in other pictures (though uneven). http://omegaforums.net/threads/omeg...-a-new-cat-in-omegaforum-town-from-1968.2821/
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    I don't know how thick the hour markers are on other dials, but on the OP's dial type, they are quite thick they even cast shadows on the dial surface as shown below:
    2913 dial.jpg
     
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