Sales reps should stick with sales!

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Yeah, you can tell some of the people at the OB are super into watches in general, while others don't quite care. I wore a stunning 145.012 into the OB last time and the sales reps went no further than "Oh, a Speedmaster, very nice" 馃榿

I hate to say it out loud but the only reason I'd buy a watch new from a Boutique would be to get in good with a sales rep so I could secure limited-edition Speedmasters better. Even then though, I'm not sure it's worth the minimum $2k depreciation hit from buying new, full-price versus waiting a year and buying secondhand... Hell, even got my XI-45 at a great price a year after they were released!
I couldn't agree more with this. I'm in the UK and my experience with the London boutiques has been great. I had a bracelet resized in one which was free of charge even though I purchased the watch elsewhere. I was browsing in another and the sales guy recognised my PO as being the LE LM.....now he was a real watch guy and we had a pleasant chat.

My nearest OB is in Birmingham and the staff there are less than useless tbh. They are not knowledgable about their products and are simply after the coin. As soon as a watch is on your wrist they are trying to secure a deposit.

The only purpose the OB serves for me is to browse and try, if I want to buy I go elsewhere.
 
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I couldn't agree more with this. I'm in the UK and my experience with the London boutiques has been great. I had a bracelet resized in one which was free of charge even though I purchased the watch elsewhere. I was browsing in another and the sales guy recognised my PO as being the LE LM.....now he was a real watch guy and we had a pleasant chat.

My nearest OB is in Birmingham and the staff there are less than useless tbh. They are not knowledgable about their products and are simply after the coin. As soon as a watch is on your wrist they are trying to secure a deposit.

The only purpose the OB serves for me is to browse and try, if I want to buy I go elsewhere.
I agree, I've had a great experience at the boutiques in London. They've all been very knowledgeable and are all gentlemen.
 
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The only purpose the OB serves for me is to browse and try, if I want to buy I go elsewhere.

Enjoy that option while you can. I think if Omega is successful at what they want to do, your only choice will be a boutique at some point down the road. Remember they are a corporation that exists for one reason - maximize shareholder value. If they can convert all watches sold at AD's to watches sold at boutiques, and pocket the profit margin the AD currently gets, that's what they will do...

AD's are being eliminated slowly, and I expect that to continue to it's final conclusion - Omega having total control over the distribution.
 
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Update, i simply could not accept what happenned. Went to the 5th Ave boutique and spoke to service. Technician is notating the incident as a training issue to higher management. And replaced all of the screws this other guy touched... Watch looks new again.
Yes, that makes sense. The 5th avenue boutique is the one that always took care of me and they where incredibly professional. And only the technicians touch the watches.
 
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if Omega is successful at what they want to do, your only choice will be a boutique at some point

That's when buying new - but if I want a modern watch, I'll always go for the secondary market unless it's a highly-sought-after LE. For someone without tons and tons of disposable income, there's a huge difference between being able to afford a $6k secondhand watch and being able to afford a $6k brand new watch at an Omega Boutique. They pump so many out these days that that $6k brand-new watch is gonna be around $4k in a year... so even then, if they eliminate ADs, I'm still no more likely to purchase from a Boutique. I wish I could - I really do, I like the service there and would love to be first in line for LE models - but I just can't afford to.
 
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Enjoy that option while you can. I think if Omega is successful at what they want to do, your only choice will be a boutique at some point down the road. Remember they are a corporation that exists for one reason - maximize shareholder value. If they can convert all watches sold at AD's to watches sold at boutiques, and pocket the profit margin the AD currently gets, that's what they will do...

AD's are being eliminated slowly, and I expect that to continue to it's final conclusion - Omega having total control over the distribution.

I can see AD's being pushed out in markets with a boutique but Omega has a long way to go to cover all the places where there are AD's.
 
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That's when buying new - but if I want a modern watch, I'll always go for the secondary market unless it's a highly-sought-after LE. For someone without tons and tons of disposable income, there's a huge difference between being able to afford a $6k secondhand watch and being able to afford a $6k brand new watch at an Omega Boutique. They pump so many out these days that that $6k brand-new watch is gonna be around $4k in a year... so even then, if they eliminate ADs, I'm still no more likely to purchase from a Boutique. I wish I could - I really do, I like the service there and would love to be first in line for LE models - but I just can't afford to.

But wouldn't the elimination of AD discounts have an effect on the secondary market? If the original owners have to buy at Boutique prices, it seems like prices could go up for resales as well.
 
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So I took my new Moonwatch out of the box to wear today for the first time. I did size it down one link at my AD last week, but hadn't worn it.
Today was a little warmer out. I felt maybe I should feel how adding the one link and adjusting the micro adjustment would feel. So I mosey into a nearby Omega boutique. I explain I want my link added and micro adjusted. He said ok... And this is when things went wrong.
He struggled with the screws at first which I get because they can be stiff. Then he began to struggle with the micro. He took a hammer and began hitting the micro adjustment spring bar. I said you don't need to do that. I can do it with a paperclip, what are you doing (as he hammered harder and harder. Somehow it came out... And he says "oh, it's a spring bar". I said yes, may I put it on the adjustment I want myself. He hands me the watch and I start inspecting. Didn't take much to see the bullet hole he put next to the microadjustment hole. I pointed it out and he pretented to not see it at first. I said look (you couldn't miss it. )
I explained that if it was just a scratch it would be excusable. But a dent hammered into the endlink was not. I kept my cool the entire time, apologizing he was being troubled and asked that a new endlink be installed.
Manager shows up, she agrees it needs to be replaced. Goes in the back and pulls out an endlink for an older pushpin one. Of course it doesn't fit. Then the guy goes to the display case and gets her an entire watch.
She ended up taking the parts from the store watch and replacing my endlink and springbar.
Kudos to taking care of the issue (they created) and they were very nice.
But my issue is why are sales reps doing strap changes and bracelet adjustments if they are not proficient in ALL of the watches?!?
I showed him how to change the microadjustment to save the next guy. This entire situation blew me away, come on Omega... Seriously.
That's not cosmetic damage! That's a feature! Now you can recognize your bracelet in the event that it's ever stolen.

I'd have been so angry if that happened to me. Kudos for keeping a cool head.

But wouldn't the elimination of AD discounts have an effect on the secondary market? If the original owners have to buy at Boutique prices, it seems like prices could go up for resales as well.
Good for Omega, bad for new buyers. People will be looking back fondly and saying "remember when you could get a new speedy pro for only $3500?"
 
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But wouldn't the elimination of AD discounts have an effect on the secondary market? If the original owners have to buy at Boutique prices, it seems like prices could go up for resales as well.
The grey market dealers also 'll have difficulty finding Omega watches as some of their stock comes from AD's.
 
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The grey market dealers also 'll have difficulty finding Omega watches as some of their stock comes from AD's.
Actually, where does the rest of the grey stock come from? I've been assuming that ALL of it came from AD's.
 
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Good for Omega, bad for new buyers. People will be looking back fondly and saying "remember when you could get a new speedy pro for only $3500?"

Exactly. I've no sense whether Al is right about this happening in the future, but if it does I think it will be felt even by those of us who tend to buy secondhand.
 
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But wouldn't the elimination of AD discounts have an effect on the secondary market? If the original owners have to buy at Boutique prices, it seems like prices could go up for resales as well.

If nobody's buying, nobody's actually going to be selling at higher prices. AD discounts are 20% max for most customers (perhaps higher for their high-value clients) but one year on, many watches on the secondary market have depreciated 30-40% regardless of where it was originally purchased.
 
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This is the reason I won't let an AD touch my watch. The thread title couldn't be more correct, and even then there's times I wondered how some people get through life!
 
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I can see AD's being pushed out in markets with a boutique but Omega has a long way to go to cover all the places where there are AD's.

As I said, AD's are being eliminated slowly. This isn't going to happen overnight but the process is well under way.
 
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My "local" is the Shopping Leblon Rio OB and they have top level staff. The boutique manager Giulliano has lived in Switzerland, is fluent in four languages and very much focused on developing a long term relationship with clients. He is also passionate about the Omega brand.

The Rio staff really, really make you feel at home and are much, much, much better than any of the luxury watch AD staff you run into Rio. Buying a Rolex/Breitling/JLC/VC/AP from an AD in Rio is essentially just a financial transaction with someone (often pretty female staff) focused 100% on your wallet and with 5% knowledge of the watch they are selling. Omega no longer has authorized ADs in Rio but their local pricing has been very good.

During my NY 5th Avenue OB visit, I was a bit let down with my converstation with an Asian sales girl (May, if I recall)....she was "friendly" but certainly not at the same level of the staff in Rio (something many will find hard to believe)... she was a bit too "sales pushy" for my taste but I think that might be a NY cultural thing馃榾...also I suppose I have got used to being pandered as an existing well known client in Rio...so I could hardly expect the same treatment as the "new guy" in the Big Apple馃槈
 
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The Rio staff really, really make you feel at home

Probably because you bought watches there though, no? I mean look - I love Omegas, even some of the modern ones (I will have a Seamaster 300 someday!) but the only thing at the Boutique worth paying full price for are the straps. And I mean that - once I have my Seamaster 300 MC (bought used, for a ~40% discount to new), I will immediately go pay $180 for the black-and-grey nylon NATO strap at the Omega Boutique. Those things are tasty, man. But the SM300 MC is not $6600 tasty.
 
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Probably because you bought watches there though, no? I mean look - I love Omegas, even some of the modern ones (I will have a Seamaster 300 someday!) but the only thing at the Boutique worth paying full price for are the straps. And I mean that - once I have my Seamaster 300 MC (bought used, for a ~40% discount to new), I will immediately go pay $180 for the black-and-grey nylon NATO strap at the Omega Boutique. Those things are tasty, man. But the SM300 MC is not $6600 tasty.

Actually they have always treated me well...even during my first Omega purchase the AT 15000 Gauss in Sept 2013. In terms of pricing, because of the massive devaluation of the BRL their watches are actually cheaper in local currency than buying retail in the US. There are no Omega ADs in Rio, only two OBs and I don麓t trust (for security reasons) the Brazilian second hand or grey market market.

If I lived in the States I would certainly consider the grey market as an option especially for something like the DSOTM. It does piss me off that I can麓t source a decent Rolex GMT 2 16710 with Coke Bezel in Brazil, but there are other positives living in Rio馃榾
 
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Actually they have always treated me well...even during my first Omega purchase the AT 15000 Gauss in Sept 2013. In terms of pricing, because of the massive devaluation of the BRL their watches are actually cheaper in local currency than buying retail in the US. There are no Omega ADs in Rio, only two OBs and I don麓t trust (for security reasons) the Brazilian second hand or grey market market.

If I lived in the States I would certainly consider the grey market as an option especially for something like the DSOTM. It does piss me off that I can麓t source a decent Rolex GMT 2 16710 with Coke Bezel in Brazil, but there are other positives living in Rio馃榾

Ah yes very true - living in New York I have a particular perspective when it comes to these things, as there's an overabundance of choice here!
 
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I've seen so many threads like this where people talk about going to ADs and boutiques to have bracelets adjusted. More often than not, they are horror stories about scratches and destroyed screws.

It seems like insanity to me. Unless you know the person working on watches personally, you should do it yourself.

Not specifically aimed at this OP, but I really don't understand why using a screwdriver is such a difficult task for people.