I've been fortunate to experience both the Tudor BB58 and 14060M 2 Liner for an extended period of time. The 14060M has certainly increased in value over the past 2 years (and that's when i felt i overpaid at the time) and did not expect to see the prices they are at now.

The 14060M certainly holds its value and perhaps more though you'd never know when the peak of these bubbles are. IMO the BB58 scratches the dive watch itch for me, brings a lot more enjoyment and is certainly less dear on the pocket. Love the colour splashes on gilt and red on the watch.

 

Lovely Timepieces, congrats and great non-bias comments

 

Same, however, for me it was a 2 liner 14060. I share the same sentiments as you though. Both are beautiful pieces. At current prices, the Sub is definitely a lot of money for what feels like little watch, whereas the Tudor is well rounded for its price. It wore beautifully and I loved looking at it just as much as I loved looking at my sub. While there are times I miss my Sub, the BB58 is a piece I have regretted selling and will add one back into my collection. Here were my two (both landed homes with different forum members)

 

It seems to be from tha comments that the Ownership and quality value of the Tudor BB58 is excellent. I have to say I’m drawn to them immensely and seriously intending a purchase.
This model is in the perfect colour scheme, is it the Herritage BB58?
Please advise model number. Thanks

 

It’s just the original BB58 often referred to “BB58 Black” as they have released a blue and taupe version.

The official name is- Tudor Black Bay 58 79030N

 

Do check out the blue version as well! My recommendation is to try to find one at retail from an AD (even if it involves a bit of waiting) or a decent preowned set. Please avoid paying over retail for them.

All the best!

 

Love that patina on your 14060!

 

maybe you misunderstand me a bit. i am not saying there isn't a place for both. i own a ton of rolex and a bunch of tudors. but they really aren't substitutes for each other IMO at current price points. tudors are great bang around value for money watches (wearing my blue bb58 right now to take my dogs to the lake) and rolex are something completely different entirely (and yes, i have paid way above MSRP for several modern rolex)

 

To the title question, it would definitely be ‘Tudor’. For myself (own Rolex and Tudor and Omega), the best bang-for-buck watch I bought was a Trilogy Seamaster at about +$600 to the price of the Tudor (so -45% RRP of the Trilogy when it came out). Amazing watch for that money. Very accurate, quite, beautiful. I also think the watch itself is on par with Rolex/Tudor quality, but with better mechanics than either. I appreciate all 3 and have no clear favorite (it somehow depends on the mood of the day and the phase of the moon). Lots of great advice here. Best advice to be echoed: buy the one you want most, if you are only going to buy one watch and be done. Can’t go wrong that way.

 

+1

if you're really going to only own 1 watch. . that's a whole 'nother can of worms that deserves its own thread. and there aren't really many better answers IMO than an explorer but that could fill pages with discussions

 

Sorry, I did misunderstand you.
I see your point not but still don't see why you can't walk the dog with a Rolex. Price aside they are not really that precious.

 

Before Tudor brought back the snowflake they said the same about vintage Tudor submariner we use to call the Tudor the poor mans Sub that’s when I picked up my vintage snowflake ether 2000 for a vintage Tudor snowflake or 4000-6000 for a vintage Rolex sub got the snowflake due to price and different with the hands and dial. Now the vintage Tudor caught up in price to the vintage Rolex at the time I bought it. I guess the new remake Tudor Sub are the new poor mans sub. But wish they used the case that looked more like Rolex with crown guard and bezel ring in the new ones of today.

 

The trilogy watches are exceptional. So are many other Omegas. And I also agree on the mechanics being, at least, more innovative.

As for better. If, at the end of the day what values a watch is reliability and accuracy (these are all tool watches for the most part) all of them are pretty darn good. Tudor, even with ETA movements, has great reliability and so does Rolex. Omega does push the envelope quite a bit more but the movement performance is not that mush superior.

As a tool watch a Tudor with an ETA movement or a Rolex are easier to service. Then there is the availability or lack there-of or service parts for independent watchmakers which would force us to rely on the parent houses for service (and the long timelines attached to that)

 

Yeah, Tudor is no longer the Poor mans Rolex because they have a very distinct identity of their own now. I actually like seeing the different temperaments because to me it justifies having the Tudor on it's own merit and not as a substitute for a Rolex.

 

Tudor is a me me me now now now Rolex
(Because you can actually buy one)

If you want a nice 200m diver it’s really a Certina or Seiko for half the price of a Tudor. That your real bang for buck

 

So many options..... This for $2600

 

https://monochrome-watches.com/cert...vancy-edition-value-proposition-review-price/

Cool caseback



The Certina DS Action Diver is powered by the automatic Powermatic 80, displaying the hours, minutes, seconds and the date. This precise and reliable movement is a modernized version of the tried-and-tested ETA 2824, with several improvements, notably a beefed-up 80-hour power reserve (most movements at this price point come with less than 2 days of power reserve). This was achieved thanks to a frequency reduced to 21,600 vibrations per hour and a modified kinetic chain. Used by Swatch Group brands, the Powermatic 80 does offer a substantial competitive advantage in the accessible mechanical Swiss-made watches. For more information, you can read our dedicated review of this movement here.

 

AND it has a very cute baby blue second hand.

 

Comes in orange, green and red IIRC

 

walk the dog. . yes. take our 2 yellow labs including a 10 week old puppy to the lake. . no chance