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·I have heard that the newer style tubes, that don’t need to be broached out, are easier to install and stronger than the older style. Any truth to this?
Rolex tube old vs new
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerEasier to install? Yes, simply because there isn't the extra step of broaching out the tube. But other than that, they still both just screw into the case.
Stronger? No evidence of this that I have ever seen.
Stronger? No evidence of this that I have ever seen.
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M'Bob
·Easier to install? Yes, simply because there isn't the extra step of broaching out the tube. But other than that, they still both just screw into the case.
Stronger? No evidence of this that I have ever seen.
Thanks.
Any idea what the difference is between the 24-603 and the 24-604 crowns?
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerNot off the top of my head, no...
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M'Bob
·Thanks.
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·Here's something from Rolex Forums B/S/T on 604/603:
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THIS IS A BRAND NEW GENUINE ROLEX CROWN PART # 24-604-3-G1. IT WILL FIT ALL MENS STEEL AND GOLD ROLEX WATCHES, MENS GOLD WATCHES AND THE STEEL AND GOLD GMT MODEL 16713 AND GOLD GMT MODEL 16718 WITH A SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL.
This crown was designed as a replacement for the older 24-600-3 and the last generation 24-603-3 crown. The threads are deeper and thicker with an improved clear internal gasket.
Despite the rumors and what others may have said, THIS CROWN FITS ALMOST ALL MENS STEEL AND GOLD AND GOLD ROLEX WATCHES !!!
It also can accommodate both the 24-5330 and the new 24-6330 tube.
This crown will fit models such as the GMT 16713 AND 16718, MENS Steel and Gold Datejust 16233, MENS Gold Datejust 16238, and the new model Datejust 116233 when using the 24-5330 tube.
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THIS IS A BRAND NEW GENUINE ROLEX CROWN PART # 24-604-3-G1. IT WILL FIT ALL MENS STEEL AND GOLD ROLEX WATCHES, MENS GOLD WATCHES AND THE STEEL AND GOLD GMT MODEL 16713 AND GOLD GMT MODEL 16718 WITH A SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL.
This crown was designed as a replacement for the older 24-600-3 and the last generation 24-603-3 crown. The threads are deeper and thicker with an improved clear internal gasket.
Despite the rumors and what others may have said, THIS CROWN FITS ALMOST ALL MENS STEEL AND GOLD AND GOLD ROLEX WATCHES !!!
It also can accommodate both the 24-5330 and the new 24-6330 tube.
This crown will fit models such as the GMT 16713 AND 16718, MENS Steel and Gold Datejust 16233, MENS Gold Datejust 16238, and the new model Datejust 116233 when using the 24-5330 tube.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerCan't tell you the specific numbers, but a number of years ago (2014 maybe), Rolex went to what they refer to as "mono bloc" crowns. The old crowns were a shell on top of a core, and these were more machined out of a solid piece. Could be what they are referring to...
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M'Bob
·Here's something from Rolex Forums B/S/T on 604/603:
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THIS IS A BRAND NEW GENUINE ROLEX CROWN PART # 24-604-3-G1. IT WILL FIT ALL MENS STEEL AND GOLD ROLEX WATCHES, MENS GOLD WATCHES AND THE STEEL AND GOLD GMT MODEL 16713 AND GOLD GMT MODEL 16718 WITH A SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL.
This crown was designed as a replacement for the older 24-600-3 and the last generation 24-603-3 crown. The threads are deeper and thicker with an improved clear internal gasket.
Despite the rumors and what others may have said, THIS CROWN FITS ALMOST ALL MENS STEEL AND GOLD AND GOLD ROLEX WATCHES !!!
It also can accommodate both the 24-5330 and the new 24-6330 tube.
This crown will fit models such as the GMT 16713 AND 16718, MENS Steel and Gold Datejust 16233, MENS Gold Datejust 16238, and the new model Datejust 116233 when using the 24-5330 tube.
I wonder if it fits to the old 24-6000 tube as well; doesn’t seem like it.
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·On a related note: when the crown and tube on these get very worn, you can get to a point where you can hardly screw the crown down - maybe one thread will engage.
I’ve heard different opinions on whether the crown and tube always have to be replaced together, or whether you can delay changing both by just replacing a new tube. Any thoughts appreciated.
I’ve heard different opinions on whether the crown and tube always have to be replaced together, or whether you can delay changing both by just replacing a new tube. Any thoughts appreciated.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerOn a related note: when the crown and tube on these get very worn, you can get to a point where you can hardly screw the crown down - maybe one thread will engage.
I’ve heard different opinions on whether the crown and tube always have to be replaced together, or whether you can delay changing both by just replacing a new tube. Any thoughts appreciated.
Personally, I always change both. Unless you have vastly different materials in the tube and crown, it makes no sense that only one set of threads gets damaged...
Changing both is pretty much standard industry practice. In fact most companies (Rolex, Omega, etc.) do this at every factory service.
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janice&fred
·On a related note: when the crown and tube on these get very worn, you can get to a point where you can hardly screw the crown down - maybe one thread will engage.
I’ve heard different opinions on whether the crown and tube always have to be replaced together, or whether you can delay changing both by just replacing a new tube. Any thoughts appreciated.
I have found that usually it's the crown that wears first, especially in the tutone watches where the gold colored crown material is softer than the steel tube threads. I have gotten away with simply replacing a crown most of the time but as Al said ideally if the parts are available both should be done. I just sent in an older Tag Heuer 2000 automatic chronograph for Justin down in Ky to replace both crown and tube as I didn't want to take any chances.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI just sent in an older Tag Heuer 2000 automatic chronograph for Justin down in Ky to replace both crown and tube as I didn't want to take any chances.
Tags have a pretty bad reputation for thread stripping, so good call...
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·Tags have a pretty bad reputation for thread stripping, so good call...
Yes as I'm sure you have run across this a lot. The other notoriously weak threaded watches we came across in the south pacific was the big Tissot 1000 divers. Loads of them in the Philippines due to all the scuba diving resorts and popularity of Tag and Tissot, and I can't recall ever finding the Tissots without stripped threads. We used to have Jack over at IWW modify the Tissots with better tubes and crowns.
