Rolex Sub replacement value

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So guys insurance for house - I have to specify my green sub hulk and how much it would cost to replace

Question is am I putting the rrp which is £6600 but you obviously can't just walk in and buy one or the grey value new which is closer to £10k??
 
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You’ll have a hard time explaining the ‘grey’ factor since the watch is still available for sale in ADs.
 
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your premium is based in the amount insured...so you get what you pay for.
But why would you want to over insure anything? unless you are planning on a claim 😀
 
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your premium is based in the amount insured...so you get what you pay for.
But why would you want to over insure anything? unless you are planning on a claim 😀

Because as I said you cant walk into an AD and say 'I'll have a hulk please" he will laugh at you in the UK. The question they ask when you want insurance is "How much will it cost to REPLACE it" so the answer is subjective in this case.
 
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You’ll have a hard time explaining the ‘grey’ factor since the watch is still available for sale in ADs.

I think this answers it so will list at £6950 and hope no one nicks it
 
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Because as I said you cant walk into an AD and say 'I'll have a hulk please" he will laugh at you in the UK. The question they ask when you want insurance is "How much will it cost to REPLACE it" so the answer is subjective in this case.


I don't think you understand.
You get what you pay for....the premium is based on the insured value. Do you want to pay a premium for coverage over what the item cost you? This is a personal choice, we cant tell you what you want. If you want more coverage...then ask your insurance broker if they will allow that. Some do, some dont. This isn't an insurance forum...we cant answer questions specific to your policy.
 
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Doesn't matter what you say it's worth. You need an appraisal from a professional that's GIA certified, and tell them to put the current gray market price as the replacement value. Then submit the documentation to the insurance company.

I'm surprised the insurance company will even let you choose your own coverage value.
 
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Doesn't matter what you say it's worth. You need an appraisal from a professional that's GIA certified, and tell them to put the current gray market price as the replacement value. Then submit the documentation to the insurance company.

I'm surprised the insurance company will even let you choose your own coverage value.

Guys, you are US based I assume I am UK it doesn’t work like that here. They simply ask you to list the personal possession values and what it is, that’s it
 
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Most won't, its based on an appraisal....but some dont require an appraisal. Mine allows me to state any amount as the premium just goes up per dollar. Regardless I dont like to over insure as it just costs more.

Do you want to pay for insurance to cover what you paid or some future value...thats completely up to you.
 
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Most won't, its based on an appraisal....but some dont require an appraisal. Mine allows me to state any amount as the premium just goes up per dollar. Regardless I dont like to over insure as it just costs more.

Do you want to pay for insurance to cover what you paid or some future value...thats completely up to you.

I don’t know what part you don’t understand guy but if I insure it for what I paid £6k back in 2015 I WONT be able to get a replacement..hope that’s clear!
 
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I don’t know what part you don’t understand guy but if I insure it for what I paid £6k back in 2015 I WONT be able to get a replacement..hope that’s clear!

I'm pretty sure he gets what your point is. And it's not that you won't be able to get a replacement...you won't be able to get a replacement for 6k.
 
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LOL.
You clearly have all the answers...why are you wasting our time?
 
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I believe you need an appraisal from a GIA or watch-specific entity to incorporate market value [these appraisals cost money, ~ $100-$200]; your avg home insurance company is just going to go off current retail.

Example:
https://www.elitetimepieces.com/appraisals.html

I think Chono24 does appraisals too.
 
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In fairness, the OP is dealing with UK insurers and they are different to US. I'm UK and Ireland based so can give you my experience. Of my 10 watches they only required a formal valuation for those over 15k. I'm with Allianz. The others I provided a valuation. I took the average value on Chrono24 as a replacement value. I definitely wouldn't insure for the original list price if you want to replace it. A 250GTO owner wouldn't exactly insure their car at the original list....
 
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Since the watch is nominally available at MSRP from a retailer, the proper thing to do is to insure it for the current MSRP. And I guess that means you will have to update it annually. A vintage item would be a different story.
 
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Since the watch is nominally available at MSRP from a retailer, the proper thing to do is to insure it for the current MSRP. And I guess that means you will have to update it annually. A vintage item would be a different story.
Define 'proper' in this instance. The amount you pay for your insurance premium depends on the value of the items - the higher value you declare, the higher your premium. The OP isn't defrauding anyone, he's being honest about the chances of replacing like with like.
 
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This is getting very argumentative so I hesitate even to respond. But I suspect that overinsuring items is actually a common way to attempt fraud, and insurance companies probably look quite closely at claims for this reason. While you may be allowed to insure an item for a replacement value of your choosing, I’m not sure that the insurer will simply pay out that amount without documentation, and it will be hard to make the case that replacement value is higher than current msrp.

Interesting that some people get really worked up in these insurance threads. Perhaps they touch some kind of nerve.
 
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Apologies if I came across as worked up, I'm really not. Was just referring to my own experience in the UK and Ireland with insurance
 
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For my SMPO I was only able to insure it for purchase value with receipt. My vintage watches I had to provide an appraisal and then each year I send 3 examples of "similar models & condition" to my insurance company to warrant any increases in coverage. This ensures that a watch I bought 5 years ago for $2500 and gets lost or stolen but is now worth $5000-$6000 I get the right replacement value.
 
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In fairness, the OP is dealing with UK insurers and they are different to US. I'm UK and Ireland based so can give you my experience. Of my 10 watches they only required a formal valuation for those over 15k. I'm with Allianz. The others I provided a valuation. I took the average value on Chrono24 as a replacement value. I definitely wouldn't insure for the original list price if you want to replace it. A 250GTO owner wouldn't exactly insure their car at the original list....

Finally - Thankyou