Rolex market predictions?

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What’s surprising about not talking about Rolexes outside of a Rolex forum?
From my understanding, many 32xx movements are losing amplitude seemingly systematically. It would seem that this is a major problem for the reliability and therefore reputation for a premier brand.

It is surprising to me that no publications (industry or even general outlets- this would have major general interest) are writing stories about it. I suppose it could be a big nothing burger but it doesn’t seem to be the case.
 
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From my understanding, many 32xx movements are losing amplitude seemingly systematically. It would seem that this is a major problem for the reliability and therefore reputation for a premier brand.

It is surprising to me that no publications (industry or even general outlets- this would have major general interest) are writing stories about it. I suppose it could be a big nothing burger but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

I have two calibre 32xx movements. Don't know what 'losing amplitude seemingly systematically' means, but both of these keep time to within manufacturer specs ( -2/+2 sec/day ).
 
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I suppose it could be a big nothing burger

You may have hit on something here. At least no issues with my 124060.
 
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From my understanding, many 32xx movements are losing amplitude seemingly systematically. It would seem that this is a major problem for the reliability and therefore reputation for a premier brand.

It is surprising to me that no publications (industry or even general outlets- this would have major general interest) are writing stories about it. I suppose it could be a big nothing burger but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

99% of Rolex owners couldn’t tell the difference between amplitude and Apple strudel.
 
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From my understanding, many 32xx movements are losing amplitude seemingly systematically. It would seem that this is a major problem for the reliability and therefore reputation for a premier brand.

It is surprising to me that no publications (industry or even general outlets- this would have major general interest) are writing stories about it. I suppose it could be a big nothing burger but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

Here is a 100 page Burger about it…

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=786299&page=153


And converting them to Omega

 
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From my understanding, many 32xx movements are losing amplitude seemingly systematically. It would seem that this is a major problem for the reliability and therefore reputation for a premier brand.

It is surprising to me that no publications (industry or even general outlets- this would have major general interest) are writing stories about it. I suppose it could be a big nothing burger but it doesn’t seem to be the case.
Yup, my 124060 had to go back to the RSC after only 6 months of daily wearing. Very low amplitude and as a result, +20/25 sec/day.
At least it came back in just about a month, but still confirming to me that the 32xx series of Rolex movement is work in progress.
 
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Yup, my 124060 had to go back to the RSC after only 6 months of daily wearing. Very low amplitude and as a result, +20/25 sec/day.
At least it came back in just about a month, but still confirming to me that the 32xx series of Rolex movement is work in progress.
Is it ok now?
 
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I only have two modern watches in my collection - a Seamaster 300 and a JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon. Both have very sophisticated movements and they are very accurate, but so are my 60+ year old Omegas with 26x, 55x and 56x calibers - still some of the best movements ever made IMO and they are far less expensive to service than the modern stuff.
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99% of Rolex owners couldn’t tell the difference between amplitude and Apple strudel.

Hey, I'm a 1%'r! 👍
 
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I only have two modern watches in my collection - a Seamaster 300 and a JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon. Both have very sophisticated movements and they are very accurate, but so are my 60+ year old Omegas with 26x, 55x and 56x calibers - still some of the best movements ever made IMO and they are far less expensive to service than the modern stuff.

That JLC of yours is just gorgeous. 👍
 
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Yup, my 124060 had to go back to the RSC after only 6 months of daily wearing. Very low amplitude and as a result, +20/25 sec/day.
At least it came back in just about a month, but still confirming to me that the 32xx series of Rolex movement is work in progress.

I've had my 124060 for a year now, and so far so good. Fingers crossed.
 
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I bought an Explorer recently for my son's graduation. I wanted him to get a Speedmaster. He wanted the Explorer. Oh well. Sounds like he's in for a rocky ride with that movement.
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(Reviving this thread after searching for updated threads.)

Is there an update on the 32xx issues? I am genuinely curious and not wanting to troll Rolex.

--- Since @MTROIS had an issue with his 124060, was his a one-off or did other non-date watches suffer from low amplitude or other issues? I.e. is it mainly date movements that have issues?

---Has Rolex developed a 'permanent' fix for the movement?

---if no permanent fix, when a watch is sent to RSC for warranty work, does Rolex just swap out the main barrel and other parts? If so, does this mean that the 32xx watches will require service every couple years to replace the same parts?

---I don't follow Rolex discussions so am curious how the Rolex fans are reacting to the 32xx issues, if in fact they are on-going. Is there angst or is there a hope that Rolex will eventually resolve the issues? Or is there an expectation that a new movement is needed?
 
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(Reviving this thread after searching for updated threads.)

Is there an update on the 32xx issues? I am genuinely curious and not wanting to troll Rolex.

--- Since @MTROIS had an issue with his 124060, was his a one-off or did other non-date watches suffer from low amplitude or other issues? I.e. is it mainly date movements that have issues?

---Has Rolex developed a 'permanent' fix for the movement?

---if no permanent fix, when a watch is sent to RSC for warranty work, does Rolex just swap out the main barrel and other parts? If so, does this mean that the 32xx watches will require service every couple years to replace the same parts?

---I don't follow Rolex discussions so am curious how the Rolex fans are reacting to the 32xx issues, if in fact they are on-going. Is there angst or is there a hope that Rolex will eventually resolve the issues? Or is there an expectation that a new movement is needed?
There are long threads on Rolex forums if you are having trouble sleeping. Personally, 31xx and earlier are good enough for me 🤓
 
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Actually even i dont get a Rolex since a year ( getting 3-4 a year) the prices are lowering , for exemple a Sub date SS was selling 18 months ago close to 13’000 chf, now there is a lot around 11’000 not selling them and was for christmas a good period, the Daytona black SS i saw one this week form 2025 and the young guy was asking 22’000 far away form the 43’000 18 months ago, but still nothing for sale at AD and no call at all, the hype is going down for shure , now flipping a SUB is not more a good plan to pay the Omegas or at least the same work as before for much less benefit.
 
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Dream on, son. Will never happen.

Would you agree a year and a half on, his prediction looks like it is coming to pass. Rolex windows are now populated with real watches many of which you can walk in and buy and the froth has well and truly gone. Very few models resell for overs any more and some take a big big bath. It was already a falling market and it’s continuing to fall.

Fancy a Batman? You can pick them up way under list now. Anyone who paid over list for anything is probably now sitting on a loss. Let’s hope they bought the watch because they liked it.
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