Rolex Explorer II Availability

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I think it was your heart tumbling out of your shirt that woke me up 😁
Writhing on the floor next yours buddy.

There is just some very cavalier advise above (and some just wrong) on how to negotiate a hobby with a partner. There is no “my money, my choice” in a marriage or “better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission”. It’s all about seeking and respecting the other’s input, even if they are completely indifferent.
 
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Writhing on the floor next yours buddy.

There is just some very cavalier advise above (and some just wrong) on how to negotiate a hobby with a partner. There is no “my money, my choice” in a marriage or “better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission”. It’s all about seeking and respecting the other’s input, even if they are completely indifferent.

No doubt. I tried to paint the ominous picture should the guy load up on expensive watches just because his wife-to-be doesn't verbally object, but I disagree with solutions that approximate his initial wish to have both the Omega and Rolex. If anything he should count his lucky stars he has the Omega and focus on the upcoming nuptials. Rolexes will be around for a long long time should he someday down the road find himself flush, and then should buy second hand just to show off his sensibility towards his hobby.
 
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No doubt. I tried to paint the ominous picture should the guy load up on expensive watches just because his wife-to-be doesn't verbally object, but I disagree with solutions that approximate his initial wish to have both the Omega and Rolex. If anything he should count his lucky stars he has the Omega and focus on the upcoming nuptials. Rolexes will be around for a long long time should he someday down the road find himself flush, and then should buy second hand just to show off his sensibility towards his hobby.

I would like to interject that I wouldn’t load up on expensive watches if we couldn’t afford it and we weren’t in agreement. We make any big decisions that are going to effect us in anyway, jointly and as I said before she has given her full backing to getting the watch.

It’s currently me who is not certain on the purchase for the reasons I have said previously. I’m very aware that I’m in a privileged position to already have a Speedmaster and that is one of the reasons why I’m struggling to purchase the Explorer as it’s a completely unnecessary purchase but that sums up watch collecting, doesn’t it?
 
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Wow this went deep. Ask yourself.
If you don’t buy the watch will you regret it for the rest of your life. Probably not.
If you do buy the watch will it lead to divorce in the near future. Probably not.
If you run into finically trouble will you be able to recoup all of the outlay. Probably.

The impression I get, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that if you do buy it, you’ll feel guilty about the expense and so won’t really enjoy the process. If there wasn’t a wait list and the pressure to buy right now, you wouldn’t. And that’s probably the answer.
 
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Wow this went deep. Ask yourself.
If you don’t buy the watch will you regret it for the rest of your life. Probably not.
If you do buy the watch will it lead to divorce in the near future. Probably not.
If you run into finically trouble will you be able to recoup all of the outlay. Probably.

The impression I get, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that if you do buy it, you’ll feel guilty about the expense and so won’t really enjoy the process. If there wasn’t a wait list and the pressure to buy right now, you wouldn’t. And that’s probably the answer.

You’re pretty much there. If this had come up in April then I think it’d be an easy decision and I’d be looking forward to it whereas at the minute it’s excited for a period and then doubt the next.
 
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Writhing on the floor next yours buddy.

There is just some very cavalier advise above (and some just wrong) on how to negotiate a hobby with a partner. There is no “my money, my choice” in a marriage or “better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission”. It’s all about seeking and respecting the other’s input, even if they are completely indifferent.

If what you're describing works for you that's great but I feel you have a narrow vision of what marriage should be like. It's perfectly fine to have a joint account and also each a separate bank account so you can buy whatever you want without asking permission.
 
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If what you're describing works for you that's great but I feel you have a narrow vision of what marriage should be like. It's perfectly fine to have a joint account and also each a separate bank account so you can buy whatever you want without asking permission.
I agree, and that’s also how my household works as well. But just the fact that you refer to it as “permission” is problematic.

Edit: I apologize if I am coming off judgmental or dogmatic. Everyone’s relationships work differently and obviously what works for one relationship may not for another.

The hair on the back of my neck stands up though when I see people talk about their spouses like they need to work around them or hide their passions. It’s really not a happy way of living and it saddens me that people feel they have to do that.
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But just the fact that you refer to it as “permission” is problematic.

Couldn't agree more. In my household, no one asks for "permission" to do anything, especially me. I am "allowed". There's a big difference. I think?
 
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just the fact that you refer to it as “permission” is problematic.

It's just semantics. Feel free to call it whatever you like. In any case, I'm not going to bore my wife with the details of why I'm buying this watch instead of that watch. Now if she shows interest, I'll tell her all about the watch but it'll stop there.
 
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James ... you know I love you, but step back from the edge, please. None of us know anything about the OP, and it's really not our place to tell him anything about his relationship. You want to talk about your own marriage, please start another thread, so we can all ignore it. 😉
 
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It's just semantics. Feel free to call it whatever you like. In any case, I'm not going to bore my wife with the details of why I'm buying this watch instead of that watch. Now if she shows interest, I'll tell her all about the watch but it stops there.
Not that it’s any of my business, but is she truly not interested, or are you assuming she isn’t?
 
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James ... you know I love you, but step back from the edge, please. None of us know anything about the OP, and it's really not our place to tell him anything about his relationship. You want to talk about your own marriage, please start another thread, so we can all ignore it. 😉
Noted and done.
 
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Not that it’s any of my business, but is she truly not interested, or are you assuming she isn’t?

She's not a watch nerd. I would know.
 
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You want to talk about your own marriage, please start another thread, so we can all ignore it.

Now THIS is some funny shit there Dan!

JW, just so you know, I would read every word if you posted a thread on your relationship. I'm always looking for new material😁
 
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Wow this went deep. Ask yourself.
If you don’t buy the watch will you regret it for the rest of your life. Probably not.
If you do buy the watch will it lead to divorce in the near future. Probably not.
If you run into finically trouble will you be able to recoup all of the outlay. Probably.

The impression I get, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that if you do buy it, you’ll feel guilty about the expense and so won’t really enjoy the process. If there wasn’t a wait list and the pressure to buy right now, you wouldn’t. And that’s probably the answer.
I should caveat my advice, whilst I believe all of the above on a personal level I’d buy the watch. I have very little control, I like buying stuff and tend to worry about the consequences after the fact. The fear of missing out is a real emotion and when it comes to Rolex, they have played a blinder.
 
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A little up date to this, I went in and tried it on at the AD as from when I last tried on one (they had an exhibition black dial explorer II) I’ve lost a couple stone in weight.

I was slightly concerned it may now be too big but it’s still good, the polar dial looks amazing in person too.

The sales consultant was really nice and helpful which was the feeling I got the first time I met her a year ago. She confirmed a few things, even though I’ve been in to try the watch if I did not buy it but still wanted to purchase it down the line then she’d leave me on the list and we would be able to aim for a fixed period in the future.

She also confirmed to me that there’s price increase on Rolex models coming in on the 1st of January which will be basically 2.5% for the Explorer II. Not sure if other models will increase and by what % but I’d assume so.