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·You have been in an interesting place these days, Fred, I’m liking it.
Yea it's called the dog house 😁
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Yea it's called the dog house 😁
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·There are clearly two camps here and I’m willing to bet experience in collecting while being in a caring and respectful relationship tie into one of those camps.
I am one of the biggest enablers here- but you have to think about the optics when it comes to making large selfish purchases (c’mon- it’s all bout you on this one) prior to a milestone life event with your partner, which is going to require a major outlaying of cash.
I do agree with Fred here, buying her something too would just look like you are trying to cover the fact that you bought two for yourself. You got your one, just wait until after the wedding. If you buy a second watch and so much as balk at the price of napkins- you are that asshole.
I am one of the biggest enablers here- but you have to think about the optics when it comes to making large selfish purchases (c’mon- it’s all bout you on this one) prior to a milestone life event with your partner, which is going to require a major outlaying of cash.
I do agree with Fred here, buying her something too would just look like you are trying to cover the fact that you bought two for yourself. You got your one, just wait until after the wedding. If you buy a second watch and so much as balk at the price of napkins- you are that asshole.
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·So I mentioned this thread to my wife, she is very involved in the hobby (I gave her the sickness) and she actually thinks it may be meaningful if you include your fiancé in the process of the Rolex and offer to buy one for her, then have the backs inscribed with your wedding date or something like that.
I know inscriptions are heresy to some collectors, but you can always ask to order a second back for your explorer and have that one inscribed and keep the orginal back in the box if the collector issue bothers you.
I know inscriptions are heresy to some collectors, but you can always ask to order a second back for your explorer and have that one inscribed and keep the orginal back in the box if the collector issue bothers you.
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·Concessions will have been made if I do purchase the watch - I will not be getting my shotgun certificate or shotgun next year / until we have the money saved back up so we’ve agreed on that.
Other than the above I don’t buy much of any real expense which is why she’s happy for me to buy the watch. I also think she’s of the opinion that I’m less likely to shoot myself with a watch.
But if I did buy it I’d then become a hypocrite if I said we can’t afford a new x y or z so you’ve got good points. I may have to be more tactful here and delay the purchase so I don’t end up losing every financial discussion by default for the first year or two or marriage 👎
I knew this wasn’t going to be an easy decision! Lol
Other than the above I don’t buy much of any real expense which is why she’s happy for me to buy the watch. I also think she’s of the opinion that I’m less likely to shoot myself with a watch.
But if I did buy it I’d then become a hypocrite if I said we can’t afford a new x y or z so you’ve got good points. I may have to be more tactful here and delay the purchase so I don’t end up losing every financial discussion by default for the first year or two or marriage 👎
I knew this wasn’t going to be an easy decision! Lol
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·so I don’t end up losing every financial discussion by default for the first year or two or marriage
Just as I suspected. He has no clue. Year or two? 😁
you can always ask to order a second back for your explorer
Oh yea...that'll go over like a fart in church.
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JMO1995
·So I mentioned this thread to my wife, she is very involved in the hobby (I gave her the sickness) and she actually thinks it may be meaningful if you include your fiancé in the process of the Rolex and offer to buy one for her, then have the backs inscribed with your wedding date or something like that.
I know inscriptions are heresy to some collectors, but you can always ask to order a second back for your explorer and have that one inscribed and keep the orginal back in the box if the collector issue bothers you.
I have asked a few times if she’d like a watch and she’s on the fence, she likes the look of a few smaller watches but she’s scared or having one that costs anything significant (£500+).
I like the idea of inscribing the case backs with the date so thank your wife for that one.
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·I have asked a few times if she’d like a watch and she’s on the fence, she likes the look of a few smaller watches but she’s scared or having one that costs anything significant (£500+).
I like the idea of inscribing the case backs with the date so thank your wife for that one.
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bananapeanut
·OP: don't fall for those reverse psychology tactics. You need to start your marriage on the right foot. If your wife gets into the habit of receiving a nice gift every time you want to buy a watch for yourself, your collecting days are counted. Instead, buy her a watch now as a wedding gift to show your love, but buy nothing for you, just inscribe the one you already have. This little sacrifice that you are making now will go a long way. A year from now, you'll be able to buy all the watches you want for yourself and she'll never say a word about it.
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·OP: don't fall for those reverse psychology tactics. You need to start your marriage on the right foot. If your wife gets into the habit of receiving a nice gift every time you want to buy a watch for yourself, your collecting days are counted. Instead, buy her a watch now as a wedding gift to show your love, but buy nothing for you, just inscribe the one you already have. This little sacrifice that you are making now will go a long way. A year from now, you'll be able to buy all the watches you want for yourself and she'll never say a word about it.
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·OP: don't fall for those reverse psychology tactics. You need to start your marriage on the right foot. If your wife gets into the habit of receiving a nice gift every time you want to buy a watch for yourself, your collecting days are counted. Instead, buy her a watch now as a wedding gift to show your love, but buy nothing for you, just inscribe the one you already have. This little sacrifice that you are making now will go a long way. A year from now, you'll be able to buy all the watches you want for yourself and she'll never say a word about it.
Yawn...there is no correct answer. The guy is getting married. He's screwed like the rest of us.
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·Yawn...there is no correct answer. The guy is getting married. He's screwed like the rest of us.
The best way to marital bliss with an expensive hobby (hobbies) is to either invite them to be a part of it, or be open and honest with them about your hobby budget and value their input.
If one has to hide their spending or have packages delivered to the office or strategize about how to pull one over on them- then you have much larger problems than a watch addiction.
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bananapeanut
·I hope you are being tongue-in- cheek here- please tell me you are joking
Most wives don't care about their husband's hobbies. They just want to feel loved.
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·Most wives don't care about their husband's hobbies. They just want to feel loved.
Even if your partner doesn’t share your passions, they should appreciate your zeal for them- and vice versa. If your partner is dismissive or glib about what makes you passionate- then the failure is either an ability to share it in a way they can understand, or a fundamental break down of respect in the relationship. And it goes the other way too.
I am on my second marriage, the first one had all the issues I advise against (including sending things to the office, the dismissive and the glib). The issues in that relationship weren’t about my hobbies, it was about manipulation, gaslighting, deceit and a fundamental lack of mutual respect.
I just think when you start down a road of scheming to get your way and trying to “train” the other person to accept your way of doing things, you are on a path to failure.
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Nobel Prize
·I had an unexpected call last week from a local AD that I put my name down for an Explorer II twelve months ago.
If I’m being honest I didn’t think I’d ever get a call as I have no purchase history with the AD.
After I put my name down I decided that I couldn’t wait an unknown time and decided to get the current hesalite speedy instead as I was between the two watches for a wedding gift to myself.
My slight dilemma now is, I still love the Explorer II but now isn’t the most ideal time for me to shell out the money as I’m getting married in February and we’re paying out for that over the next 6 weeks.
Does anyone know if I turned the watch down, would they allow me to go back down the list or will they just mark you as a time waster and black list you?
I’m going to see it this week so I want to have a firm decision made before I go in of what to do.
P.S I haven’t been keeping up to date with wait times but is the Rolex wait time decreasing / do AD’s now have certain sport watch model in stock or is it still utter madness and if they did put me to the bottom of the list I’d likely be looking at another 12 months wait?
Yes, they most likely will not give you priority over the next available. I am tempted to ask you to get it on my behalf as I miss my E2 polar.
On the other hand, yes, Rolex are slowly coming back to the stores
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bananapeanut
·That’s an incredibly simplistic way of putting it. Most husbands just want to be loved too- part of being loved is also feeling understood and appreciated.
Even if your partner doesn’t share your passions, they should appreciate your zeal for them- and vice versa. If your partner is dismissive or glib about what makes you passionate- then the failure is either an ability to share it in a way they can understand, or a fundamental break down of respect in the relationship. And it goes the other way too.
I am on my second marriage, the first one had all the issues I advise against (including sending things to the office, the dismissive and the glib). The issues in that relationship weren’t about my hobbies, it was about manipulation, gaslighting, deceit and a fundamental lack of mutual respect.
I just think when you start down a road of scheming to get your way and trying to “train” the other person to accept your way of doing things, you are on a path to failure.
It looks to me that you went from one extreme to another.
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·It looks to me that you went from one extreme to another.
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·I did, and learned valuable lessons from it- which I try to share with others so they don’t make the same mistakes.
Honest to goodness...what would we all, the great unwashed who make up this membership, turn into without you to guide us.
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·Honest to goodness...what would we all, the great unwashed who make up this membership, turn into without you to guide us.
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janice&fred
·…and there’s Fred, glad you’re back.
I think it was your heart tumbling out of your shirt that woke me up 😁
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Apa
·It is best to learn mistakes that others make, i dont think that i have time to make all mistakes be myself....
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