Rolex Explorer II 1655 for everyday wear, or run?

hansaboy · Sat. 2:25pm

Some interesting reading maybe…?

https://speedmaster101.com/blog/why-dont-we-want-service-parts-a-quick-guide-for-a-newcomer/

watch_my_six · Sun. 8:55pm

hansaboy
Some interesting reading maybe…?

https://speedmaster101.com/blog/why-dont-we-want-service-parts-a-quick-guide-for-a-newcomer/

I appreciate the resource, but doesn't it support my point?

"We avoid service parts because they do not look the same as the original parts – it is as simple as that...So you see there are degrees of 'Service Damage'."

In other words, if the service parts look mostly the same (as I would argue the Explorer II MKV bezel and MKVI dial do), why would they hurt the value so much? And even if some people think they should, William also (tactfully) acknowledges that "I am aware there are collectors who disagree with my views." So I'm not sure why we had to bring talk about laziness and gibberish into the conversation 🙄

bgrisso · Sun. 11:05pm

watch_my_six
I appreciate the resource, but doesn't it support my point?

"We avoid service parts because they do not look the same as the original parts – it is as simple as that...So you see there are degrees of 'Service Damage'."

In other words, if the service parts look mostly the same (as I would argue the Explorer II MKV bezel and MKVI dial do), why would they hurt the value so much? And even if some people think they should, William also (tactfully) acknowledges that "I am aware there are collectors who disagree with my views." So I'm not sure why we had to bring talk about laziness and gibberish into the conversation 🙄

I think the main point is not whether you (or anyone else) agrees or disagrees with how collectables are valued, or all the idiosyncrasies and trends involved in those valuations. The point is that you are looking to spend a significant amount of money on a collectible, and even if you don't anticipate selling it, that could very well change, and so it's advisable to really understand market pricing so you don't end up taking a bath in that situation. If you end up having to unexpectedly flip the watch, the people you are talking to in this thread are your potential target buyers, so I think it's worth taking into account their feedback. It doesn't mean you have to agree or disagree, or be in the collectors club or not, it's just market feedback.

The other conversation, about the WHYs of how things are valued, original parts vs service parts, original lume vs relume, etc, is tilting at windmills IMO.

Just my 2 cents. I also wouldn't consider the OP watch at $15K or $17K or even significantly lower.

Fallout Boy · Mon. 12:00am

watch_my_six

me not

watch_my_six · Mon. 12:05am

Fallout Boy
me not

Oh is some of the lume bleeding out of the plot, or what am I not seeing?

Fallout Boy · Mon. 12:08am

look at the print-size of TSWISST
train your eyes ;-)

Fallout Boy · Mon. 12:12am

btw: I would not visit "pebbles-beach concours" with all these ships of theseus....

watch_my_six · Mon. 12:14am

Fallout Boy
look at the print-size of TSWISST
train your eyes ;-)

But isn't that still consistent with either a MK4 or MK5 dial?

Fallout Boy · Mon. 12:15am

which one of these?? watch MY six !
Help me out of the maze.

watch_my_six · Mon. 12:20am

Fallout Boy
which one of these?? watch MY six !
Help me out of the maze.

Ha, the two on the right side of the top row, which have "T SWISS < 25 T". The "T SWISS..." on the re-lumed dial that you said "me not" to is consistent with both of those, isn't it? Or am I still missing something?...

Fallout Boy · Mon. 12:27am

I assume(d): TSWISST my error .... show the rest: If <25 : you are right. And I would like to se the back-side of this redial....possible?

watch_my_six · Mon. 12:35am

Fallout Boy
"T SWISS T < 25". The "T SWISS..."

I assume(d): TSWISST .... show the rest: If <25 : you are right. And I would like to se the back-side of this redial....possible?

Yes a bit confusing, since his finger is covering the rest of the text. But this is not my dial, so unfortunately I have no access to the back-side. How come you would like to see it? What would you be looking for?

Fallout Boy · Mon. 12:51am

I first was confused by the TSWISST , but I was not correct, because it can not be symmetrical.....on the redial.

On the back side of the dials you can discover the origin + markings.

TorontoTim · Mon. 9:55am

Making me wish I hadn't sold mine 20 years ago 😜

Rolex Explorer II 1655 for everyday wear, or run?

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