Restoration strategy advice sought

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Hello everybody,

About 4 years ago I mentioned this watch in another thread. It's a 9ct Juvenia dress watch which was given to my father as an engagement present by his future father-in-law back in 1962. Sadly dad died last month and the watch has passed to me and I would like to have it restored. As you can see from the pictures it has an Accurist movement which was put in some years ago when, I believe, water ingress damaged the original movement. Dad always described it as "half a movement" (he was an antiques and clock dealer and knew a little about watches). I guess the movement was made for watches with more complications than this piece required.

The current movemetn is automatic but I wonder if the watch was originally a winder because it doesn't say "Automatic" on the dial. The year of purchase suggests it is part of the Slimline range but I don't see any images of this model online - in fact I don't see any references to Juvenia Slimline with neither seconds or date complications.

Anyway, I would like to see if it is possible to source a correct movement for this timepiece. The Accurist movement works fine, it just needs a good clean and service, but if the watch can be restored properly it would make me very happy.

Looking forward to advice and ideas.

Thanks in advance.

Nick

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SO the current movement is an ETA2451 (I think?), which as you know is an automatic, and perhaps with a Date complication (which obviously isn't visible) and second hand. And the hands aren't original either.

Figuring out what the original movement is going to be troublesome. I found a number of similar watches (it appears they did a 33mm with very similar dials everywhere). The movements are all over the place, some with automatics, some without. There are a lot with '21' on the dial, which seems to mean a Juvenia 664 movement (which seems to be an ETA 2450?) automatic movement.

So... I think you'll have a hard time figuring out what the original WAS, since Juvenia wasn't consistent with them.

THAT SAID, because the one that is installed is a 2451, it would make a lot of sense that it was the 'closest they had' to the 2450-based original movement. So I would put... small amounts of money on the bet that this was originally a 664 movement.
 
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SO the current movement is an ETA2451 (I think?), which as you know is an automatic, and perhaps with a Date complication (which obviously isn't visible) and second hand. And the hands aren't original either.

Figuring out what the original movement is going to be troublesome. I found a number of similar watches (it appears they did a 33mm with very similar dials everywhere). The movements are all over the place, some with automatics, some without. There are a lot with '21' on the dial, which seems to mean a Juvenia 664 movement (which seems to be an ETA 2450?) automatic movement.

So... I think you'll have a hard time figuring out what the original WAS, since Juvenia wasn't consistent with them.

THAT SAID, because the one that is installed is a 2451, it would make a lot of sense that it was the 'closest they had' to the 2450-based original movement. So I would put... small amounts of money on the bet that this was originally a 664 movement.
Thank you Erich - I will look out for a 664/2450 movement.
 
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There's quite a few out there it looks at least. The 664 seems pretty popular/easy to get, including some with hands. THIS one is pretty darn close to your watch, other than the 21 on the dial? BUT it does have a second hand: https://www.ebay.com/itm/127612310915
 
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A little more research into this suggests that the absence of "21" or "Automatic" from the dial means that the original movement would likely have been a cal 604 17 or 21 jewel manual wound model. Does this make sense to experts here?

That's not to say I will go in that direction - dad was always proud that his watch was an automatic so I think to honour that I might well go for a cal 664 even if the watch probably never had such a movement at any time.
 
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That definitely could be true, I didn't find any real consistency on these watches. Automatics without markings/etc all over the place.

I don't know if this was a well documented brand, and I suspect not. I suspect they sorta just did "parts bin" stuff from a couple of movements.

I think your plan makes sense. I think an automatic is probably one you would wear more anyway.