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  1. JwRosenthal Oct 14, 2020

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    That's a nice looking watch! The only difference between this and the invincible is for self winding movement- same watch otherwise, case is slightly different. Some people put a premium on the "Invincible" on the dial as it's just cool- but it doesn't make the watch any better- just auto or manual.
    Asking on this isn't out of the realm of reasonable- it's in fairly good shape- $350 would be nicer.
     
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  2. Scarecrow Boat Burt Macklin, FBI Oct 14, 2020

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    That really is great looking! Sharp edges on the case and over all really clean.
    Considering $450 is what I paid for mine, this one is listed with "make offer" so I would definitely give that a try for anyone considering this!
     
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  3. vintage hab Oct 14, 2020

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    But is it normal that "rotor is audible through caseback"?!? Although I don't see any rubbing marks on the inside of the caseback
     
  4. Redwes25 Oct 14, 2020

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    I have one of these and I don’t hear rotor. Though think rest of watch looks in very good shape.

    Will add movement saying Elgin is strange and case back says west Germany but dial says swiss. So a few odd things going for it.
     
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  5. pnwyankee Oct 14, 2020

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  6. JwRosenthal Oct 14, 2020

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    Oh shit- didn't see the Elgin rotor. Probably a swap during a service, lots of these watches had interchangeable movement parts- but yeah, I would be a little bothered by that- even though nobody ever sees it. But for the right price I could get over it and track down a Helbros branded rotor and forget it ever happened
     
  7. JwRosenthal Oct 14, 2020

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    No, no, no!! Marriage watch- this is a pocket watch movement, new fabricated dial and new made in the East case. Only buy if you want a fantasy watch
     
  8. JwRosenthal Oct 14, 2020

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  9. Redwes25 Oct 14, 2020

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    agree with this. I think it can be overlooked but would probably not pay the ask. Dial looks really good and broad arrow hour hand on these are really cool in person.
     
  10. JwRosenthal Oct 14, 2020

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    With any of these divers- it's all about cosmetics. The movements are off the shelf, it's the dials/hands/bezels in good shape that are rare as shit.
     
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  12. Scarecrow Boat Burt Macklin, FBI Oct 14, 2020

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    I didn’t see it was an Elgin movement...
     
  13. JwRosenthal Oct 14, 2020

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    It may not be, possibly just the rotor.
     
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  15. Sam11 Oct 15, 2020

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    And its gone. Wonder how much it sold for.
     
  16. Professor Oct 15, 2020

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    $450.
     
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  17. JwRosenthal Oct 15, 2020

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    Yeah, I figured it wouldn't last- it was a nice one despite the mismatched rotor. There is another up right now, but is a different dial without the surround trim, so it's a slightly less desirable iteration- but no less a nice watch.
     
  18. JwRosenthal Oct 15, 2020

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    This Helbros was a good example of watching market trends-
    I bought mine in late 2019 for $250

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    It was grimy, but cleaned up well enough. I would put the condition at a 6/10, the bezel keeping it from being a sold 8 as the dial and hands are excellent. (Service was done but not counting that as part of "value").
    @Scarecrow Boat got his for $450 not a month ago, his I would rate at an 8, his bezel is better than mine and dial/hands about equal (he also has has a service but again-looking at purchase price to compare against others that haven't been).
    The one we just saw go for $450 I would rate at a 5, ding for wrong rotor (possible movement swap) bezel was similar to mine for condition but sun faded- dial/hands looked excellent.
    By looking at that very small sample (normally I would review as many sold listing and compare condition and actually sold-for price), I would say these are trending up quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if we see ones like SB's selling close to $600 within the next few months- unless the market tanks...which I don't see happening on watches like this.
    These types of watches have sat low on the market for decades (use to be able to get these for $100 5 years ago) and as the top end of the market becomes stratospheric for prices these start climbing as focus moves downstream (I assume like many of us on this thread who just can't stomach $10k+ for a vintage watch).
    If the watch bubble market collapses, we will see the upper middle fall- the best of the best will always be in demand and although the market may shrink- the hard-core collectors will still be buying. Sub-par examples of $$$$ watches will recede, but the newly discovered "bargains" like these watches still hold, if not still climb as they now have a following and they remain affordable to a broader audience.
    The cheapies will always be cheapies- the fun is identifying which ones will break from the pack.
     
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  19. Redwes25 Oct 15, 2020

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    I have one I bought a year ago for like 200 but condition not as good as any of those and found at a vintage store near me that has a watch case that I check every couple of months. Honestly don’t think would have bought off the bay as lume has issues so would have stayed away but it kind of spoke to me in person.

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/skin-dive-watches.114195/page-6#post-1619581
     
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  20. JwRosenthal Oct 15, 2020

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    I think someone here bought a men's version of this watch- step right up and get the hers version to match!

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