Real Mccoy Or Just Another Fake?

Any idea when they transitioned to the engraved case number? Your Tri-Compax with the pulasations bezel, for example, was it engraved?

My belief is that the case, crowns, and movement are original. I believe the lume on the inner bezel from triangle to 20 may be no original. I believe that the dial is original, but I am just not sure about the lume dots. I guess after some thought, my belief is that the dots are not original. They are too flat on top, too large, and too odd of a color compared with others.

The seller has 100% feedback, but has a little reputation for toying around with watches, which makes me uncomfortable. Just look at his other items to see all kinds of movements, dials, and cases.

For reference, here are the three Polerouter Subs that sold in the 1994 Antiquorum Universal-only auction:

This is the only one to have a lumed triangle through 20:
http://images.antiquorum.com/122/full/132.jpg

http://images.antiquorum.com/122/full/133.jpg

http://images.antiquorum.com/122/full/134.jpg

And the post by LouS earlier shows a good example of the dot Polerouter Sub. The dots just seem to be smaller and more similar in terms of a curved top to the Polerouters from the period.

Lume will drive you crazy on any vintage piece. The thing that gets me is the crowns. Most of the super compressor cases that I've seen have matching crowns. This ref. by Universal seems very odd in the mismatch--it's most reminiscent of the mechanical wrist alarms (I'm thinking of the AS1475 movements) where the main time crown would be standard and boring shape, and then the alarm crown was slightly smaller and had a little stylized "A" on it.

Obviously my commentary does little to advance the argument for or against the piece's authenticity. Even in the Antiquorum links you posted, 2/3 of the watches have mismatched crowns.

What was going on at Universal during the late 60s and 70s? Hand engraved case numbers, mismatched crowns. Everything seems very haphazard, almost like they were just reaching into the part bin for whatever was handy. When did they run into financial troubles? (ie, when did they sell Marvin to Zenith?) Does anyone know what they had to pay for the patent infringement/licensing fees on the micro-rotor movements?

Do you mean Martel? If so, that was 1960 according to what I've heard. (I think Lou told me)

Yes, Martel, the source of many of Universal's in house calibres. I should probably reserve posting for times when I'm not so tired.

No worries. PWT (posting while tired) is better than PWI (posting while intoxicated). Ask Ashley! 😜

It would have been more amusing if you called the company Marvel like the comic book creator.

It may have been more of a PWTI moment.

You should know that anything you type will be used against you in a future post. 😲 😜

Seriously, a lot of PWI goes on here. 😁 It's standard operating procedure. Just don't brag about your Cartier in earshot of a certain ΩF bigwig:

http://omegaforums.net/threads/why-the-hell-do-you-buy-cartier.501/

Sold! That did not take too long.

Price appreciation in vintage (large size) dive watches?--Bueller, Bueller... Bueller?