Rare Omega Constellation Ref 2782 10SC - Discussion

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Hello everyone,

I recently acquired this Omega Constellation 2782-10SC, which the dealer dates to 1954. It has a calibre 354 bumper movement and is described by the dealer as an original “Star Dust” dial (the beautiful aging made me fall in love).

What particularly caught my attention are the applied hour markers.

They are highly faceted and almost prism-like. The markers at 3, 6, 9 and 12 have a distinctive bifurcated appearance, but seem to be made as a single applied piece rather than two separate markers (no space between them ?). The other hours have single markers with the same faceted geometry.

I have spent quite a lot of time trying to find another 2782 with exactly the same markers, but I have not been able to find a convincing match.

I am not asking whether the watch is genuine - it was purchased from a specialist vintage watch dealer in Paris, and the dealer states that the dial is original.

What I would really like to understand is:

Does anyone know this specific style of faceted markers, and when Omega used them on the 2782 / 2782-10SC?

Maybe this time piece is more rare and more valuable than I expected at first?

I would be particularly interested in examples with known movement serial numbers, as I am trying to establish a possible production period for this dial furniture.

Any information, catalogue references or examples from private collections would be greatly appreciated.

To all my fellow passionates,

Thank you!

 
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Welcome aboard!

The style of indices is well-known and was mostly used on Seamasters of the period. A former example of mine:



You say you’re not asking regarding whether it’s genuine so I won’t comment on that.

Rarity doesn’t always translate into value. Yes, this exact configuration is certainly not among the common ones. But especially with the condition of the watch, I doubt it’ll do much regarding value.
 
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Welcome aboard!

The style of indices is well-known and was mostly used on Seamasters of the period. A former example of mine:



You say you’re not asking regarding whether it’s genuine so I won’t comment on that.

Rarity doesn’t always translate into value. Yes, this exact configuration is certainly not among the common ones. But especially with the condition of the watch, I doubt it’ll do much regarding value.
Thank you very much for the answer !

Beautiful piece you have here.

I indeed saw several Seamasters with either the 3-6-9-12 double markers or the single markers on other numbers, but never both. It was a struggle to find something similar on Constellation.

I deeply appreciate your honesty and expertise.

Do you have a doubt on whether it's genuine or not ?

It's my very first Omega watch and even though I am very interested into them for a while, I do have a lot to learn.
 
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Interesting dial and font. What you say is stardust, is deterioration. It is always a bonus when the dial deteriorates in a way that is pleasing.

The indices seem common enough. What is desirable is the arrowheads.

I like the overall effect. If you are happy, I hope you enjoy wearing it.
 
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I am not asking whether the watch is genuine - it was purchased from a specialist vintage watch dealer in Paris, and the dealer states that the dial is original.
The fact that a dealer says something does not say that much. Every random Charly can say something. I dont say this dial is not original btw
 
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Is the watch missing its bezel?

Good questions in terms of how genuine it is…
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Sloppy redial
Original stardust ?
That’s original water/ moisture ingression dust ie damage

Incorrect seconds hand ? Goes passed the seconds track
Rusty hands moisture
And the bracelet isn’t a genuine omega if it’s been listed as

How does the movement look?.
 
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In my opinion, I’m not sure I would call it “very rare.” This type of hour marker does turn up on Constellations from time to time.

The font on yours also looks very similar to the one on my black-dial ref. 2852, which has oval-shaped minute markers.

 
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Every dealer has their own marketing terminology, but IMO, stardust is more often used to describe black dials that exhibit an even speckling of the underlying dial blank color, e.g. gold.

The OP dial has blisters and lacquer loss, probably from water damage. But terminology aside, patina is in the eye of the beholder, and that's part of the beauty of vintage watches.
 
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It seems the short visit to OF made the op fall out of love with his watch.

Unfortunately, it didn’t make him honest about the bracelet, the second hand or the bezel issue. 😉



“All components are original.”
They just aren’t.
 
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Interesting dial for sure, but the condition of it and the hands ( together with the other issues ) certainly doesn't justify that ludicrous €4.3K asking.
 
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It seems the short visit to OF made the op fall out of love with his watch.

Unfortunately, it didn’t make him honest about the bracelet, the second hand or the bezel issue. 😉



“All components are original.”
They just aren’t.
It's a cynical world... : )