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My OB source says the new rail master will be the aqua terra case with the sm300 hands and dial
That will be a little disappointing if all it is is a 2503.53 with a movement update. That said, I guess this one may actually have the anti-magnetic credentials of the 50s version which the 2503 ignored.

Have just realised that the 8806 is a single barrel slimmer version of the 8500 and is around 4.6mm thick so there is scope for a thinner Railmaster than I thought. Lets hope they get it down to circa 13mm and then it should be pretty slick.
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From the responses, it appears that no one is disappointed that it's not a manual wind?

One could only be disappointed if he actually expected them to build a whole new manual 3-hand movement. You've gotta be realistic, and while a manual-wind Railmaster would be the best thing in decades, it's just not going to happen.
 
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For sure great expectations for this piece. I have been expecting this for 2 years now and I do think the no date symmetry may blow the AT out of the water...and I love the AT. Also will be a good market option against the explorer.

Will they faux patina it? will they not? will they add a "Charlie Brown" sketch right on the center of it? 馃槻
 
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Ah come on. Nothing says you have to love every single product Omega put out to deserve a hearing on here. I can't say I particularly like the Globe Master

@padders I think you missed the point completely, mate. I have often severely criticized some of Omega's newer designs on the OF...I would certainly never criticize anyone for not liking a given Omega watch / design on the OF.

All I suggested was that @nygiants should create a separate thread to discuss the Rolex teasers...various other watch forums are speculating whether white form Rolex teaser is a new SD with cyclops and the small chronograph buttons on the darker image teaser are generating wild speculation as well.
 
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Just looking at the picture again, is that a single mainspring barrel rather than dual?
 
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Just looking at the picture again, is that a single mainspring barrel rather than dual?
Yep. 8806 apparently has only one barrel see my post above.
 
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One could only be disappointed if he actually expected them to build a whole new manual 3-hand movement

Not possible by modifying the existing 8511?
 
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Yep. 8806 apparently has only one barrel see my post above.
I believe that is also why Watchbase are quoting a reduced 55h power reserve for the 8806 versus the normal 8500 derived double barrel 60h...and according to them the Ralimaster and Seamaster LEs will both have closed backs.

Funny thing is that Watchbase are also stating that the Railmaster will have a WR of 150m vs 100m for the Seamaster LE? Typo perhaps?
 
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My OB source says the new rail master will be the aqua terra case with the sm300 hands and dial

The Aqua Terra is a lyre lug case isn't it? Surely this is straight lug.
 
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Anyone wishing to view/download Omega's source MP4 file:
https://www.omegawatches.com/images/Video/Homepage_carrousel/Home_Baselworld2017_Teaser1.mp4

Assuming 29.00mm movement diameter from:
http://watchbase.com/omega/caliber/8806

I measured 437px for the movement width in the movie, which gives a 0.06636 multiplier.

These are approximate dimensions for the watch. There may in fact be a bit of extra girth, from the rotor, but I had to take a stab at where to perform the measurements.

Railmaster Ultrasound.jpg
 
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A search on the Omega website turns up nothing for the first model number ... I'm not sure those numbers are authentic.
Why would an unreleased upcoming product appear on the Omega website?
 
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This one's a bit harder to read as I did a simple opacity tweak on a stack of multiple screen grabs.

Co-Axial Master Chronometer at 2 o'clock
Limited Edition 0000 / 3557 at 6 o'clock

Railmaster Ultrasound 2.jpg


Oh and that may or may not be the face from the Shroud of Turin dead center. 馃槈
 
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Why would an unreleased upcoming product appear on the Omega website?
Who says the info on the other site is reliable? It could just be somebody's wishful thinking for all we know.
 
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Not possible by modifying the existing 8511?

Seems like a lot of work to essentially make the watch less marketable / appeal only to the few hardcore vintage watch nerds who don't mind buying new
 
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Seems like a lot of work to essentially make the watch less marketable / appeal only to the few hardcore vintage watch nerds who don't mind buying new

I can't disagree, because a company like Omega, who exists to make money, would not have done it this way if it wouldn't have greater appeal than a hand-wind.

Still: they introduced the Tresor two years ago with the new cal. 8511. They could have made this an auto, but they didn't. Has the Tresor been a bomb? I don't know. I like it.

It also seems like many Speedmaster owners are content to hand-wind their watches, in spite of the fact that there are auto versions available. So, is it possible that a hand-wound Railmaster re-issue would have had appeal beyond the "vintage watch nerds"? Perhaps...
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Who says the info on the other site is reliable? It could just be somebody's wishful thinking for all we know.

I didn't say Watchbase was was reliable but it does seem plausible, I was merely wondering why you thought an unreleased product would be listed on the official Omega site. Logically it wouldn't since in that case it would no longer be unreleased would it?
 
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I've just tried explaining the Railmaster to my girlfriend. What is was/is, probable new release, showed her the video, explained why I'm so excited etc.

I've never seen someone give less of a shit.

You & I David, rarely disagree.....but on this occasion.....she may have a point

Whilst I entirely respect 'different folks have different strokes' in terms of personal preferences, .......I desperately fear this may another case of 'Emperors New Clothes', from Omega.... Entirely accepting, of course, this may be my exclusively personal perspective, ( as a University Lecturer in Creativity & Design )

Countless re iterations of recycled past glories, tends to lead to creative stagnancy...........One only has to look at Hollywood's persistent obsession with Comic book 'Superheros'

However, from Omega's Marketing Dept's point of view, a launch of anything I suppose, maintains the Brands public presence, reassures existing buyers of their historic choices, & generates vast oceanic column inches, in online fandom blogs......The 'Speedy Tuesday' edition was a direct result of 'Social Media'...and even that, let's be honest, was just yet another Speedmaster with a variation of the 60's Breitling 765 Avi dial...........Thankfully,..... without a cartoon character, as its primary focus

if one looks at the 15 years between 1957 & 1972.......Omega was at the forefront of design risk taking, in creative experimentation in wrist watch aesthetics,...... & their conceptual bravery spurred many other brands to follow their lead......Where is that corporate confidence, to push the creative envelope now ?

I was pretty scathing, at the time, about the Bullhead re issue......and ( despite predictions to the contrary ), there are shed loads of those still unsold...& unless I am wrong,.....was the last version of the Railmaster, not also discontinued due to poor sales ?

This is not an attempt to rain on anyone's parade......more to provoke discussion about where Omega might take their designs, going forwards....and not backwards

I realise my less than positive comments, are never going to win me an invitation for dinner with Mr. Aeschlimann......I hope, I can live with that
 
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if one looks at the 15 years between 1957 & 1972.......Omega was at the forefront of design risk taking, in creative experimentation in wrist watch aesthetics,...... & their conceptual bravery spurred many other brands to follow their lead......Where is that corporate confidence, to push the creative envelope now ?
I get your point, but there seems to be two, intertwining issues here: creativity lack with new watches, vs a re-issue of an older model.

Yes: they do seem to be harking back to older designs for many of their current releases. But, some of them are so good that there are still aesthetically pleasing, with the benefits of some modern improvements. Not all bad, in my opinion...So with each re-issue, there may be some you like, and some that fall flat.

What's new, in many cases, is the technology. Here, we have seen METAS, significant anti-magnetic material improvements, etc., that are actually quite impressive. There is just so much you can do with a watch case, that hasn't been done before. So when you talk of "pushing the creative envelope," I don't see any of the major watch companies putting anything new out that makes one say, Wow! what a creative design departure from what everyone else is doing! At least within the limits of good taste.
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