Radiation concerns.

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Can I ask how they are stored ? Are they out in the open, loose in drawers, in sealed boxes, or something else ?
 
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As much as I love them...makes me seriously consider simply selling them off and staring longingly at pictures of them for the years to come... Someone talk me off the ledge!

Umm. I will take one Geometer, please.
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@Seaborg - thanks for your post! Reminded me to take proper precaution on a little side project 😀

(The radium dust is a lot less reduced now 👍 )

 
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I read this post with interest, particularly after the radon study from the UK hit the airwaves.

I have five high radiation watches, and numerous others with radium hands. I store them in my bedroom at times, so of course, I was interested in what my radon exposure could be.

So I coughed up the $200 and sprung for a Corentuim radon detector by Airthings, which gets fairly high accuracy ratings compared to the standard tests. The difference is, rather than having to send the specimen out for analysis, the detector gives you an on-going short, and long-term radon detection result.

As has been mentioned previously, the levels and exposure can vary significantly based on things like air-flow, time of year, and importantly, what floor you store them on, and spend most of your time in.

Closed windows tend to make the readings higher, and I just came back from a three-day weekend away where I had left them that way purposely, so I was curious what my levels would be like upon my return. To my surprise, they were around 0.21pCi/L. This is fairly low, and lower than the average outdoor level of .4pCi/L.

So, if this issue is of concern, and you have a large number of radium watches, it may be worth the investment for your peace of mind, or, in a worst-case scenario, it will assist you in sorting out how to mitigate the problem. I'd be interested in hearing back on your results when you do.

Interesting and thanks. I have the same device and will be watching levels in the rooms where I keep the watches both with windows open and closed and will get back.
 
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I am new to the forum so first of all hello everyone! Does anybody have experience with the radioactivity of a previously radium lumed watch after a regular service including removing the radium from the dial and repainting it? Will radium dust and other fallouts be removed during cleaning of the watches parts and therefore the radioactivity be eliminated?
Best regards, Louis
 
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I am new to the forum so first of all hello everyone! Does anybody have experience with the radioactivity of a previously radium lumed watch after a regular service including removing the radium from the dial and repainting it? Will radium dust and other fallouts be removed during cleaning of the watches parts and therefore the radioactivity be eliminated?
Best regards, Louis

There is no way to answer that, as it would depend on how thoroughly the watch, hands and dial are cleaned. However, whatever material might remain will almost certainly be of no danger at all to the person wearing the watch.
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There is no way to answer that, as it would depend on how thoroughly the watch, hands and dial are cleaned. However, whatever material might remain will almost certain;y be of no danger at all to the person wearing the watch.
Hello, thanks for your reply! so whats the most proper way to clean movement parts, crystal and case? an ultrasonic bath? I assume after an ultrasonic bath the radium dust layer on a crystal for example is removed almost completely?
 
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Hello, thanks for your reply! so whats the most proper way to clean movement parts, crystal and case? an ultrasonic bath? I assume after an ultrasonic bath the radium dust layer on a crystal for example is removed almost completely?

You're welcome. I would expect that ultrasonic cleaning would effectively remove radium from the parts, yes. Bear in mind, though, that the danger of radiation from old watches comes almost exclusively from the potential to inhale particles, so as long as you have someone else do the cleaning, you are likely to face negligible risks.

If you do choose to clean the watch yourself, then you should obviously wear both a mask, and protective eyewear.
 
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Yeah I get you! Point is I'd like to wear the watch on a daily basis without having to think about radioactivity that's why I'm trying to figure out how to remove radium from a whole watch! if anyone has tried that and measured radioactivity levels before and after I‘d be happy to hear what you‘ve discovered!😀 thanks again!
You're welcome. I would expect that ultrasonic cleaning would effectively remove radium from the parts, yes. Bear in mind, though, that the danger of radiation from old watches comes almost exclusively from the potential to inhale particles, so as long as you have someone else do the cleaning, you are likely to face negligible risks.

If you do choose to clean the watch yourself, then you should obviously wear both a mask, and protective eyewear.
You're welcome. I would expect that ultrasonic cleaning would effectively remove radium from the parts, yes. Bear in mind, though, that the danger of radiation from old watches comes almost exclusively from the potential to inhale particles, so as long as you have someone else do the cleaning, you are likely to face negligible risks.

If you do choose to clean the watch yourself, then you should obviously wear both a mask, and protective eyewear.
 
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In all the concern over radium / radon I'd also ask that we not forget the obvious environmental exposures known to increase one's cancer risk: smoking and sun exposure.

I can see the brewing logical inconsistency of someone being very careful in opening / storing their watches from now on ... followed by a quick smoke break or trip to the beach sans sunscreen.
Good point about overall cancer risk...not to mention alcohol.
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You guys worry too much. I mean, seriously, what could go wrong? 😁
 
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I can’t speak on the topic of Radon gas, but I have 2 Omega Rancheros and they are my favorite Omega model, but my concern about the radiation from the Radium dials prompted me to purchase a Geiger counter. One of the Rancheros measures about 4µSv/h and the other one is 10µSv/h. And this is with the crystal touching the Geiger counter where the sensor is….there is a big drop at a foot away (closer than when I look at it to read the time)..just above background radiation. But there’s about 3µSv/h from the case backs which of course touch my wrist while I wear them…
To put this into perspective, when you fly a commercial airline at normal cruising altitude (about 30,000 ft) you’re getting 3µSv/h all around you throughout the cabin.
But that 10µSv/h still bugs me…the jury is still out for me…
And I would assume the amount of Radon gas produced is proportional to the amount radioactivity emitted by the Radium paint(?)…
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