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Niloticus
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Dear forum,

I recently came into possession of what I believe is an Omega CK 615 mini "Scarab", in remarkable condition. Sourced it from someone in Germany who said it was a family heirloom - I have done my research, but wanted to hear a bit from the experts on this model as I've seen some of you be.

Based on caseback and movement serial, I would date the watch to 1939-1940? The dial is in remarkable condition, but it is indeed so clean I want to rule out a redial.

What worries me a bit is the crown, that seems a bit big vs. other models I've seen around. It does, however, have a faint circular marking that looks like it could be an Omega logo that has faded away.

Movement looks correct to me, strap is a leather replacement and the buckle looks original to me too. In good working order overall.

And now the pictures:

Dial:
photo1.webp front.webp

Movement:
movpic.webp


Caseback:
casebackinterior.webp

Buckle:
bucklefront.webp buckleunderneath.webp


Wristshot:
wrist.webp


All input is welcome, thank you!

 
hoipolloi
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Hello.
The dial looks too new. Possibly a redial. The crown is too thick and in the period of time, there was no logo on crowns.
The buckle is a newer style aftermarket, not original.
Mine says hi.
Hoi.

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Niloticus
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hoipolloi hoipolloi
Hello.
The dial looks too new. Possibly a redial. The crown is too thick and in the period of time, there was no logo on crowns.
The buckle is a newer style aftermarket, not original.
Mine says hi.
Hoi.

20250328_130859.webp
Redial would have to be of exceptional quality as I can’t fault it with a loupe. The rest of the watch case is in top condition, Im inclined to think its original.

For the crown, I defer to your expertise.

Agreed on the buckle, Im not a specialist.
 
Niloticus
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hoipolloi hoipolloi
Hello.
The dial looks too new. Possibly a redial. The crown is too thick and in the period of time, there was no logo on crowns.
The buckle is a newer style aftermarket, not original.
Mine says hi.
Hoi.

20250328_130859.webp
Beautiful, by the way!!
 
mac_omega
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Here is mine for comparison of the crown - IMO this is an original one mounted on my watch

scarab.webp
 
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mac_omega mac_omega
Here is mine for comparison of the crown - IMO this is an original one mounted on my watch

scarab.webp
Fabulous watch! Yes I do believe you are right!
 
Zapatta
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I think I've seen this watch on Kleinanzeigen, imho it's redial
 
Niloticus
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Thank you for your input! Not a redial, in my opinion. I see no flaw, no geometric inconsistency, printing is crisp - but then again anything is possible. The overall state of the watch is almost pristine, its has been carefully cared for, clearly. Seller was adamant about it being a family heirloom, and that the dial was original, untouched.
Zapatta Zapatta
I think I've seen this watch on Kleinanzeigen, imho it's redial
 
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Niloticus Edantony
Thank you for your input! Not a redial, in my opinion. I see no flaw, no geometric inconsistency, printing is crisp - but then again anything is possible. The overall state of the watch is almost pristine, its has been carefully cared for, clearly. Seller was adamant about it being a family heirloom, and that the dial was original, untouched.
Looks fully restored to me, fake buckle and all.
 
Davidt
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Is the minute track thicker on one side than the other?
My gut reaction to the photo was redial and looking at it closer my opinion hasn’t changed.
 
Niloticus
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Davidt Davidt
Is the minute track thicker on one side than the other?
My gut reaction to the photo was redial and looking at it closer my opinion hasn’t changed.
It is not thicker on one side vs the other.
It is exactly the same width all around.
 
Niloticus
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Niloticus Edantony
It is not thicker on one side vs the other.
It is exactly the same width all around.
it is perfectly symetrical.
 
Porteroso
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Seems like a nice redial. The texture and color combo of the lume seems off. It looks really grainy/lumpy, therefore I assume some degredation, but perfectly white? I have not seen that before. Of course, I am not an expert.
 
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If we assume that @mac_omega's one is original (which I think) than the OP's one is not....
 
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Mark020 Mark020
If we assume that @mac_omega's one is original (which I think) than the OP's one is not....
The reason why I showed mine was for comparison of the crown.
I also think that the dial on mine is original. But obviously it has been stripped of the radium lume and most of the hashes in the sub-sec dial are already missing. The print of the white "elements" is very smooth unlike the lines on OP´s which look grainy - sign of reprint?
 
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mac_omega mac_omega
The reason why I showed mine was for comparison of the crown.
I also think that the dial on mine is original. But obviously it has been stripped of the radium lume and most of the hashes in the sub-sec dial are already missing. The print of the white "elements" is very smooth unlike the lines on OP´s which look grainy - sign of reprint?
I appreciate the comments, but apart from the grainy aspect of the white print (bear in mind this pic was taken with a loupe, very zoomed in), I see no rational explanation that supports the idea of a redial.

The printing is crisp, uniform, there is no variation in the width of the lines, no asymmetry.

The grainy aspect is once again only visible with a loupe, fully zoomed in. Mac, I honestly don’t see why (and its not a comparison, I don’t mean to offend), your dial would be original and mine reprinted.

Yes, mine has almost no degradation at all, but since when should that equate to redial?
 
Niloticus
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Mark020 Mark020
If we assume that @mac_omega's one is original (which I think) than the OP's one is not....
Mark020 Mark020
If we assume that @mac_omega's one is original (which I think) than the OP's one is not....

Why? What is the rationale? Clearly one is a more utilitarian on the CK 615, with to Mac’s point maybe some lume stripping, and lumed hands.

Mine is a dress watch, no lume on dial or hands.
I’m sorry, I’m not following.
 
Mark020
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Opinions may differ but IMHO Mac’s one looks like a 80 years old watch and yours don’t. Sorry
 
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