Purchased Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch - how did I do?

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Thanks for the note. So I can't comment for others, but I have 7 days to return the watch no questions asked, so in effect, I'm just looking for any input from the members of this group on any angles I might have missed so I can tack and correct my decision if needed. I also just wanted to share my price/market analysis and some of the tools I used in the event that they prove useful for anyone else in the future.
Hi Matey,
Just be alert and check the serial number with Omega on receipt if no box nor original papers/warranty card as the Chinese Super Clone(fakes) are almost Undetectable to all but the most trained eye. The movements are copied including engraving etc!!!
Looks great and the inscription is awesome
 
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Looks very nice, enjoy it. That clasp looks in amazing condition for a 22 yo watch - mine is 4 years old and it鈥檚 scratched badly. Was this kept in a sock drawer? 馃槈
Also, is that the serial number etched onto the lug? I鈥檓 not sure when that practice started, it would be interesting to know.
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The watch looks good. However, I believe a Speedy of that age should have come with a Tritium dial. I have a 3570.50 with a tritium dial and is roughly the same age per the serial number (1997 or 1998 production). Will defer to the experts here though as I鈥檓 familiar with the particulars of the 30th anniversary Speedies.
 
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Never mind. An article from Fratello shows the 30th anniversary Speedy was produced in 1999. First year of SuperLuminova dials.
 
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Never mind. An article from Fratello shows the 30th anniversary Speedy was produced in 1999. First year of SuperLuminova dials.
My research also indicates that the last batch of Omega watches with Tritium came out in 1997/98.
 
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Looks very nice, enjoy it. That clasp looks in amazing condition for a 22 yo watch - mine is 4 years old and it鈥檚 scratched badly. Was this kept in a sock drawer? 馃槈
Also, is that the serial number etched onto the lug? I鈥檓 not sure when that practice started, it would be interesting to know.
Yes the watch has the serial number on the lug - it just came out a little blurry on the picture I took. The 1498 is really nice indeed, I really like the slight taper in the design. It reminds me of the Rolex Oyster bracelets from the early 2000s.
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The cheapest Speedmaster Pro that Topper has right now is $5,250 USD. That's new.
They have zero preowned Speedmaster Profesisonals.
The selection of Speedmasters on this forum below $4,500, in 2021, in the private watch sale forum, is practically non-existent.

The limited edition is a nice feature to set it apart from the pack. I don't think you did too bad.
Crack the case open and get some movement pics once it arrives. If it looks clean, enjoy it!


Hence why I said if you have patience you can find one for a good price.

This week Topper has a nice 3570.50.00 for sale at a price of $4199 but if you use the promo code 10off it comes to $3779.10 shipped. There is also a 1 year Topper warranty that comes with the watch. As Topper is a AD and verifies the watches, you don't ever have to worry about if the Speedy you bought from them is the real deal

https://topperjewelers.com/collecti...oducts/pre-owned-omega-speedmaster-3570-50-00

It is missing links but they always seem to have spares hanging around. I asked for and they gave me (at no extra charge) 2 extra links.
 
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This LE ref has always been produced with luminova, so no question about tritium here.

Just a small "bad" point ATM, the fact that a LE without a full set is a little bit more complicated to sell. A quite big % of the amateurs for LE speedies are people "mad of details", and they love their full set (authenticity Omega papers boxes, etc....).

I love the text on the back too... 馃槣
Cannot say anything about the price, but seems not so bad IMHO...
Now..... Just use and wear it without any restrictions!馃憤馃憤
 
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So this watch purchase has not turned out well for me in the end. When I received the watch, upon reflection, I noticed heavy dings/scratches that were not clearly described in the listing and not clear in the lighting of the ad pictures. I engaged the dealer, Swiss Watch Expo immediately and requested that they send me a picture of the internal movement as I was beginning to have reservations about the purchase. They claimed to have no pictures of the movement although they are a professional dealer and have movements posted for their other sales. Finding these developments unsettling, but still hoping things would turn out okay because I liked the watch, in accordance with the terms of the sale and the 18 month warranty, I had an Omega Authorized Dealer (AD) assess and authenticate the watch. The AD confirmed the internals of the watch are authentic but uncovered that the movement was not performing within specifications - it contains worn/broken parts that need servicing. I subsequently had the watch sent in to an Omega Service Center to receive a second opinion. Omega has since confirmed the reality that the watch is in need of a full maintenance servicing (overhaul) as their watchmakers have uncovered that the watch is not performing within specifications. The price of the servicing is quoted at $838.75. This entire process of validating the watch with first the AD and then Omega directly of course took a bit of time on my part counted in weeks not days. I find myself in a position where I paid market price for a watch from a professional dealer with the understanding the watch was allegedly serviced and in excellent condition. Omega has since confirmed that this is not the case. I checked the terms of the sale and found these claims by the dealer: they allege that all their watches put for sale have internal movements that are "restored by expert watchmakers" are "of the highest quality, and serviced by a Master watchmaker" backed by a warranty where they "stand by every product they sell."

With these facts in hand, I reached out to the dealer politely requesting that they remedy the situation by either accepting a return of the watch, or by paying for the servicing by Omega. I have sent them 4 emails and they have not responded, they are ignoring me. So much for their claims of "standing by their product" - and it goes to show that buying from a "professional" dealer with claims of alleged servicing and with a warranty can effectively turn out to be no service and warranty at all. What an incredibly disappointing, dissatisfying and expensive mistake on my part to trust this professional dealer - Swiss Watch Expo. I can only say that I am glad I had the watch internals checked out out by two Omega certified watchmakers otherwise I would have never known I bought a problem watch from Swiss Watch Expo.
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Thanks for the update on your experience @RDL and sorry this has not worked out for you. I really hope you get the full refund and the return is not a hassle. Any chance of putting a stop on your payment? That'll get them answering your email!

I now see what some early posters were saying about the ad pictures -- so high contrast as to hide flaws. The ding near Tach 80 is obvious in your actual photos, but cleverly deemphasized in the ad photos to the point you might think it is just a reflection. Also curious how that back case quotation looks like the letters are filled with black (enamel?) in the ad photos, but look like simply etched in your actual shots.
 
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Since you are well past the 10 day mark to return the watch I think that avenue is closed, most places are pretty adamant on returns after the 'free inspection' time has elapsed. Since they seem to be ignoring your latest requests for overhaul assistance I doubt you will get much satisfaction there, either. After 2 1/2 months they are calling the deal 'closed'. Unfortunately you have learned an expensive lesson. Never trust a seller who claims a watch has been professionally serviced unless they can provide you with a dated receipt by a qualified servicer showing exactly what was done. Most claims of a fully serviced watch are just sales BS, I never trust them and if I want the watch bad enough I'll figure in the cost to determine if the watch is worth buying. Sometimes I'll be pleasantly surprised, but usually not. Good luck moving forward.
 
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Never trust a seller who claims a watch has been professionally serviced unless they can provide you with a dated receipt by a qualified servicer showing exactly what was done. Most claims of a fully serviced watch are just sales BS

Agreed, both of my recent speedmaster purchases came with 'recently serviced by XYZ' claims that came unstuck on further inspection. I believe in both cases it wasn't flat out lying - more cases of services that just weren't done well. Thankfully for the second watch there was immediate evidence of timing problems, so the seller was happy to work with me on a solution.

It does raise some particular concerns about dealer-sellers who talk about their in-house servicing, often without any clear evidence (e.g. receipts) that this is the case. The recent experiences with my speedies have taught me a lot (along with my trusted watchmaker) about the difference between a quick clean / overhaul, and a full service including replacement of worn parts etc... these days it seems preferable to find a watch where the need for a service is fairly clear and account for that in price.
 
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i was researching the same apollo 11 watch for a friend and came across this older thread.
Wondering if you had the Omega serviced?
Seems this is about the right price for these now serviced. they were a little cheaper when you bought...
great watch, i hope all went well in the end!
please update us on how its going!