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Price range for a vintage 60s Omega Constellation?

  1. hsk28

    hsk28 Mar 25, 2020

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    Sorry if this the wrong place to ask but what should the price range of a vintage Constellation in good/very good condition be?

    I'm on the lookout for something very similar to this: omega-vintage-constellation-omega-cd-168-0010-list.jpg
     
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  2. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 25, 2020

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  3. hsk28

    hsk28 Mar 25, 2020

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  4. aprax

    aprax Mar 26, 2020

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  5. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 26, 2020

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    bit of a strange one this.
    there appears to have been only one bid.
    it could be because the auction pics were so over exposed that it looks like the watch has no facets.
    you can just see them on the boxed pic but they aren't well defined. (which wasn't on the saleroom info for the lot)

    at 750 euros, I think the hammer price isn't uncommon for a hidden crown Connie, although pie-pans have gone a little higher in recent memory (but not much higher) - this one looks to have a nice dial and had the pics been better the watch may have realised a higher hammer price.

    auction pics for the record

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  6. cristos71

    cristos71 Mar 26, 2020

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    I think it was a cracking watch at that price. For me too late a period but if you're into 60's Connie's then this was IMO a great deal
     
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  7. Passover

    Passover Mar 26, 2020

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  8. gbesq

    gbesq Mar 26, 2020

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    In addition to all of the good advice given above, other factors that influence price are the specific year and model, dial type
    (pie pans generally sell for more), date versus no date (I prefer no date), case material (stainless steel, gold cap, solid gold), bracelet type and material (eg, period correct stainless steel beads of rice will fetch more than an aftermarket leather band), and special dial features (e.g., gold arrowhead markers or markers with onyx inlays).
     
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  9. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 26, 2020

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    All sound advice.
    Although, in the case of the OP looking for a dome-dial 168.010, they will have to settle for watch with a date complication.
    -and BORs with 19mm end links are like hens teeth.

    They do come in a range of materials (including pink) and a couple of movements and hands options.

    BTW @hsk28, to broaden your search, you might want to also consider the .010s cousin, the earlier 168.004
    Very (very) similar to the .010 but with the 'standard' Connie 18mm between the lugs instead of 19mm.
     
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  10. hsk28

    hsk28 Mar 26, 2020

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    Thanks a ton to everyone for the replies. This is all super helpful information!

    If anyone is still hanging around this thread.. do all the early 60s Constellations have the semi hidden crown? I keep seeing a few decent examples around but most don't have the semi hidden crown like in my original post
     
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  11. Passover

    Passover Mar 26, 2020

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    The Dog Leg and Lyre Shaped Connies have 'normal' crowns these are not semi hidden ones

    Further reading (despite the Vintage Constellation show and tell thread) is:

    http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/
     
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  12. Passover

    Passover Mar 26, 2020

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    IMO the semi hidden crown models aren't early 60s but mid and late 60ies. Many are seen with a 25 million serial dating them roughtly to 1967

    The earliest 60s Connies were Lyre Shaped, followed by Dog Leg, than the OP one.
     
  13. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 26, 2020

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    @hsk28, a lot of the hidden crown Connies have had their crowns replaced - and Omega no longer make the slim hidden version, so you will see a lot with expressed crowns (just to confuse things further, there is also a second 'domed' semi-hidden crown that may have originally appeared on some of these watches and is also listed as a replacement crown.)
    Plus, if you haven't yet got to grips with the variations, there are later 'round cased' Connies (from later 60s) that look similar to the .004s and .010s, but with flatter dials - these watches always had an expressed crown. (168.018 and day/date 168.016)

    Strictly speaking the first hidden crown Connie (168.004) was released in 1962 but, @Passover, I'll concede that you really don't see many that early.
    It's always confusing that there seems to have been a significant overlap with the .004s and the .010s, to the point where (very uncommonly) some .004s even have cal 564 engines. (and a little more commonly early .010s have cal 561 movts)
     
  14. Passover

    Passover Mar 26, 2020

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    That was new to me. great to have such a well informed and experienced member here on Omegaforums! :thumbsup:
     
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    dsacks30 Mar 26, 2020

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  16. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 27, 2020

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    A very nice 2853.
    Lovely gold pie pan with arrowheads. however, the case is a little polished.
    So, IMHO, a very beautiful dress watch but not a Grade A collector’s piece.

    I don’t think the intention of this thread was to ruminate on the likely values of specific Connies (the OP wanted to know the ballpark figure for a particular reference)

    Therefore, it is enough to say that WOK estimates are always quite strong.
    The lower end of the estimate is usually the reserve price and if the watch was really sharp it might be worth somewhere approaching the upper end of the estimate - if someone really had to have it.
    (I think approx £3,500 (bottom end) is way too much for the watch in this condition and approx £4250 (top end) would be too much even for the watch in mint condition)

    it will be interesting to see how dress watch prices fare in the current uncertain climate.
     
  17. aprax

    aprax Mar 27, 2020

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    I don't like the dial of the WOK watch at all. It has the brushed finish you would expect from a silvered dial.
    The deluxe dial, which this is supposed to be, should have a mirror finish on the outer ring.
     
  18. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 27, 2020

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    I quite like it -makes a change from the mirrored dial facets (which can look a bit too bling)
    I think its probably a dial manufacturer thing, as I don't see anything wrong with it to make me think it isn't correct.

    here's a better pic of it
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