Price for this -68st transitional ?

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My research made me meet this 145.022-68st.
Everything seems correct to me, and I would like to have your opinion because you have a lot more experience than me.

About the mechanism, the watch has not been serviced for a long time and the chrono hour hand remains stationary.
The seller decided to take it to a watchmaker to find out the origin of the problem and the price of the repair before agreeing on the price.

The condition of the bezel lowers the price, as does the lost tritium from the chrono hand.
what do you think the price would be? $ 7,500 ?

thank you for your help and your always good advice 😉

 
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I’m guessing it doesn’t come with an original bracelet? You need to factor that in as they’re very expensive now.

Difficult to price without knowing how much the repair will be.
 
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If you look closely, there is corrosion on the underside of the lugs.

The lume of the hands is identical to the lume on the dial, so I would look closely.

A correct, good bezel is worth at least $2500 and I feel the price might be appropriate if the bezel was good.

This bezel is essentially worthless.
 
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If you look closely, there is corrosion on the underside of the lugs.

The lume of the hands is identical to the lume on the dial, so I would look closely.

A correct, good bezel is worth at least $2500 and I feel the price might be appropriate if the bezel was good.

This bezel is essentially worthless.

thank you very much for your sharp gaze!

I thought there was grime on the lugs, but on closer inspection you are right, it is corrosion.

you think the needles were relume? is it impossible that they naturally have a color so close to the indexes?

the devil is in the details
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for 7.5k - considering the corrosion (on the lugs and on the side of the case it seems too), the hand with missing lume, the revision, the bezel... I guess I won't go for it.
Take a little more time or add some money to find a better one.
 
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Using Spacefruit's Speedmaster101 price chart, which you should acquaint yourself with as it is a helpful guide in pricing Speedmasters, you can obtain a rough estimate of the value of the head of the watch.

Bezel is in poor condition as previously mentioned.... poor 3500K ( generous estimate in my opinion)
Dial is the best part of this watch, although missing lume in the chrono hand?... good 7500K (if not missing lume maybe a bit higher)
Case is corroded which is undesirable, but, I'll be nice again and rank as a poor+....4000K
Average = 5K
Not worth 7.5K
 
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it's tropical brown dial if my eyes doesnt fail me. matter of light reflection can show it more.

and looks like a cb case. i might be wrong.
 
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[QUOTE="This bezel is essentially worthless.[/QUOTE]

Those are fighting words William. :whipped:
 
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Most everything has been said, but, the pros seem to be:
- original crown/pushers, most 68's have service replacements
- dial, that lume is gorgeous, if its been relumed, its one of the better jobs i've seen, a lot of 68's I've seen have dark/blotchy lume

cons:
- case corrosion
- no bracelet
- hands; every '68 Iv'e seen has dark and degraded lume on the hands, these hands are definitely relumed to match the dial, its a good match but definitely not original
- bezel, really unattractive with big craters that destroy the aesthetic; I'd argue a DNN service replacement may be better her

Bracelet and bezel are big cost items, so that's a big hit on the value of this piece. Good luck.
 
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[QUOTE="This bezel is essentially worthless.

Those are fighting words William. :whipped:[/QUOTE]

The bezel still has a value, I've seen worse offered here for over 4 figures
 
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The reason for me the devil is in the
Those are fighting words William. :whipped:

The bezel still has a value, I've seen worse offered here for over 4 figures[/QUOTE]

Offered yes - but bought?

I suppose my (bilious) comment was inspired by me reviewing some watches and wishing for better bezels, and thinking why would anyone pay for that?

when I say worthless, perhaps I mean insignificant.

when a bezel has paint missing such that there is metal showing from side to side on the carrier ring, like a dog that chews the furniture, it is hard to love.

I do accept and for a buyer with no bezel, it is a step up. The question is, how much will people pay for a bezel without any attraction?
 
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Offered yes - but bought?

I suppose my (bilious) comment was inspired by me reviewing some watches and wishing for better bezels, and thinking why would anyone pay for that?

when I say worthless, perhaps I mean insignificant.

when a bezel has paint missing such that there is metal showing from side to side on the carrier ring, like a dog that chews the furniture, it is hard to love.

I do accept and for a buyer with no bezel, it is a step up. The question is, how much will people pay for a bezel without any attraction?

Actually if you look through the posts you're mis-quoting me there 😁😉

I said," The bezel still has a value, I've seen worse offered here for over 4 figures"

Agreed I don't know the selling prices of parts here on OF, but there is still always a relatively decent price to be had for a DON bezel, certainly one with the dot visible. Whether one sells or not for a price in the four figures depends on condition of course and I wouldn't expect it for one battered to within a mm of it's life, but for one as the OP's, I would still expect a sum in serious hundreds of € if not above.
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The seller will be sad when he learns these details about his watch because he seems honest to me but without an expert look.
he had never tested the chrono over several hours before I asked him. it's probably the first thing I do when I encounter a vintage chrono. it allows me to let it run while I observe the aesthetic aspects.

I think he will never want to sell it for $4000 because he bought it for $7500 2-3 years ago.
It's going to take time for him to digest... it's not pleasant to open his eyes to flaws.
probably I shouldn't say anything about the reasons that push me not to continue the purchase.
Happiness often lies in ignorance.

I do not think to make an offer even if the dial seduces me enormously (in my opinion it has not been reworked, the indexes are too precise to have been touched manually).
the original pushers and crown seduced me.
for the bezel i have seen ruins sell for $1500 and i was wondering who needed it.
I can't find any presentable DON bezel for less than $2500 and I find these prices unreasonable because they don't give a premium over their price.
of course it should not be thought of as a financial investment, but rather that most people prefer to wear the cleanest watch possible.
"L’addition est salée" as they say in France when you pay too much.

I know a watchmaker who laser welds stainless steel. it can be useful for recent watches that have received shocks. on a model like this, and given the location of the corrosion, I think that the polishing that will then have to be done will be seen and will not improve the problems of this case.
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I think he will never want to sell it for $4000 because he bought it for $7500 2-3 years ago.

My reading of this thread is that people are suggesting the watch is worth something in the neighborhood of $5k. So I don't know where the $4000 number came from.

In any case, it's just advice. If you like the watch, you can certainly pay more.
 
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My reading of this thread is that people are suggesting the watch is worth something in the neighborhood of $5k. So I don't know where the $4000 number came from.
exact. I made a mistake in my approximate conversions $ / €, sorry 😟

I would have agreed to go in search of a bezel but the presence of corrosion seems insurmountable to me