Pressure Testing Pre-Owned Dive Watch

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Well, had a look at their web site - not many photos and unclear if they are really of their facility. Had a look under water resistance and found some misleading fluff:

"What does “Water Resistant” really mean?

Water resistance of watches is rated based on a laboratory pressure tests comparable to a swimmer or diver sitting still at that pressure level. But people hardly sit still when doing water based activities, which makes its water resistance different when in the real world.

The water resistance rating is flawed. For example, it doesn’t take into account:

  • Sudden, rapid, and repeated water pressure changes experienced by the wrist of a surface swimmer. The force of plunging your arm into the water while swimming can for a fraction of a second greatly exceed the static pressures the watch was rated for."
This is the old dynamic pressure argument, which really doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Had a look under the warranty section and saw this:

"Water Resistance - We may pressure test your watch if that service is purchased and will verify that your watch passed the ISO standards for your watch before it has left Watch Repair & Co. We cannot guarantee water resistance after it leaves because we have no control over what might happen to the watch once it leaves Watch Repair & Co."

So they will replace the seals, but there won't be any warranty. If you do have a problem with their work, you had better react quickly based on this:

"If a Problem Develops During the Warranty Period the Customer Must Contact Watch Repair & Co. Within 24 Hours to Notify us of the Problem.

To notify Watch Repair & Co. the customer must submit a Contact form. Failure to do this voids the warranty. After notifying Watch Repair & Co. the watch then must be sent in for warranty repair as soon as is indicated by Watch Repair & Co. Failure to send the watch back within the specified time will void the warranty.

This warranty is only for the original repair service and does not extend past any warranty work performed. No further warranty is given after warranty repair is performed."

So you must notify them within 24 hours of noticing a defect, and if you don't the warranty is voided. If you don't send the watch to them by the deadline they give you, they can void your warranty. So if you are on vacation somewhere where you can't contact them or can't send the watch back when they you should, then they can easily avoid any responsibility. This is an unusual warranty clause in my experience.

Let us know how you make out.

Cheers, Al
 
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"Sudden, rapid, and repeated water pressure changes experienced by the wrist of a surface swimmer. The force of plunging your arm into the water while swimming can for a fraction of a second greatly exceed the static pressures the watch was rated for."

Not this again... when is this going to go away? ::facepalm1::::facepalm1::
 
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Not this again... when is this going to go away? ::facepalm1::::facepalm1::

Never, apparently.
 
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I’d personally send it to someone who is recommended from the forum. It might be more expensive but you get what you pay for
 
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I’d personally send it to someone who is recommended from the forum. It might be more expensive but you get what you pay for
I understand. I'm working in New York City. I should be able to find someone here.
Also it's a relatively simple process.
 
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Also it's a relatively simple process.

ummmmm, define relatively simple. You need the gaskets and the test equipment.

I've had several relatively new watches be relatively difficult to seal.
 
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Also it's a relatively simple process.
ummmmm, define relatively simple. You need the gaskets and the test equipment.
I've had several relatively new watches be relatively difficult to seal.

Common.
 
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Our of curiosity, Archer, what should someone do if they find themselves with a steamed watch? Pop off the back so stuff can dry out? Put it in an oven at a low temp? Bag of rice? I imagine this happens a lot on vacation and it could be a while before the watch could get to a watchmaker for repair.

This is such an excellent question. I think the proper procedure could be a real lifesaver, at least financially. What is the best protocol, Mr. A?
 
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UPDATE

Watch Repair & Co:
NYC Watch Repair & Restoration Services

Watch Repair & Co:
NYC Watch Repair & Restoration Services

The shop was located on 47th Street which most people can tell you is a really hot area to sell and buy watches. Multiple jewelry store and watch shops there is people that stand outside and holler at you and ask you if you need anything. The whole thing seems very sketchy accept that most the shops sell vintage Rolexes and APS.
The repair shop was in a building and they were on the second floor going to their area you would pass by other repair shops and other jewelry shops, no windows or anything like that, just a long hallway with doors and names of the company on the doors.
I can go on and on describing the shop and the people that work there.I dropped my watch off to the watch maker and he said it would take roughly 20 to 30 minutes. The strange thing though is that he didn't go into his office where he has a workbench but instead he left the room and went according to them upstairs to their other office.

I tell the man that works at the counter that I want the old gasket back once they replace it if they have to. He bluntly asks me why and I actually stumbled for a second not expecting the response and tell him I want to just keep all the original parts of the watch. Once the watchmaker gets back he gives me an exhausted look and tells me that the watch was open and I was a very lucky man. I'm not really sure what he means by this but I'm guessing that the case back wasn't secure. The watchmaker then claims to have replace the gasket and have performed a pressure test. He was going to give me a price until I reminded them I had a quote $45.

As I neared the door to the shop I remember that I wanted the old gasket back. The watchmaker hollered from behind his window at his work bench but then he came out to talk to me and basically in broken English and with a pen and paper showed me that gasket was in pieces. Regardless of the condition they still would not give it to me.

My theory is that they can not do the pressure testing or the other work on a (womans watch that was dropped off with mine) so they go to another company within the building. I don't care where it gets done or about the money I just want to make sure its properly installed and my watch will not become water logged.

The watch maker told me I am able to swim which is the whole point if having it changed and tested.

What do you guys think?
Should the crown o ring have been changed?
Does the story sound acurrate for a 4 year old watch (about the gasket in pieces)?
Should I go to another watchmaker and have them check it as well?

Depending on the comments I'm going to write them a Yelp review.
 
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Color me skeptical, but it sounds dodgy as hell to me.
Really I posted on another forum and some people are like RUN and others are like it's fine.
 
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Really I posted on another forum and some people are like RUN and others are like it's fine.
In the absence of consensus, it comes down to your own comfort level. Which is where you started. 🤔
 
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and with a pen and paper showed me that gasket was in pieces. Regardless of the condition they still would not give it to me.

I can't imagine a scenario where a case back gasket has become so hard and brittle in a watch that is only 4 years old that it must be removed in pieces. They do certainly get this way over time, but not in watches that are so new.

It sounds to me like they replaced the case back gasket only (why I said to ask for them all back because I figured they would just change one), and gave you no evidence of a pressure test.

I don't think you are any better off than when you started.

Cheers, Al
 
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I can't imagine a scenario where a case back gasket has become so hard and brittle in a watch that is only 4 years old that it must be removed in pieces. They do certainly get this way over time, but not in watches that are so new.

It sounds to me like they replaced the case back gasket only (why I said to ask for them all back because I figured they would just change one), and gave you no evidence of a pressure test.

I don't think you are any better off than when you started.

Cheers, Al

Thanks. This is upsetting.
 
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Sent them an email asking for a %100 guaranty that the work was complete.
I also asked about the "other office" like what was that about.
 
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Sent them an email asking for a %100 guaranty that the work was complete.
I also asked about the "other office" like what was that about.
Just move on.
Pressure testing equipment isn't the most outrageously priced gear. Hard to imagine a decent, full service watch maker wouldn't have a setup.
 
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Just move on.
Pressure testing equipment isn't the most outrageously priced gear. Hard to imagine a decent, full service watch maker wouldn't have a setup.
NO one will do it... Everyone wants you to get a "full service" which includes getting a quote which takes 48hrs.
 
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Just move on.
Pressure testing equipment isn't the most outrageously priced gear. Hard to imagine a decent, full service watch maker wouldn't have a setup.

You are clearly thinking of much different "gear" than I am...