Polerouter Redial Question

Spike · Feb 28, 2015

Spike
I thought the crosshairs are suppose to actually go right through the fonts, passing through the first stroke of the 'M' and right through the centre of GENEVE, not stopping short of it which makes both the above examples redials........but I'm a lot newer to this game than the 2 esteem members above so take what I say with a pinch of salt......Uncle Lou is our man to pass comment here I would imagine.

Well it looks like i was wrong in my earlier post, always happy to be proved wrong if it means I learn from it......hate to think of the number of ones I've discarded from my searches because of broken crosshairs though.

Just seems to make it even harder to decide if it's a redial now...........still, just back from a family lunch in London after watching Crystal Palace win at West Ham, I'm a happy man anyway😀

eustace · Feb 28, 2015

Does anyone have a collection of print ads?

Tony C. · Feb 28, 2015

Update: I was assessing the wrong dial (i.e. "photo of an original added for comparison").

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gatorcpa · Feb 28, 2015

eustace
Does anyone have a collection of print ads?

Best collection on the net:

http://www.polerouter.de/frameset-advertisement.htm

gatorcpa

jordn · Mar 1, 2015

I've been away for a few days, so just putting in my two cents.

eustace
Note the top vertical crosshair runs right over the applied "U" logo

Definitely agree. The cross hair should not run through the logo. And to my eyes, the crosshairs look too thick. I also believe that the dial variations that don't have minute/hour markers are exclusive to some gold or de luxe models.

One thing I would like to add is that there seems to have been some quality control issues with the cross hairs by the dial manufacturers. Like many of you noticed, there are a lot of inconsistencies regarding the breakage of the cross hairs, but besides that, I've also noticed they are generally painted pretty poorly. I think that's somewhat evident in all of the examples in this thread as well as my own.

I'm a huge fan of Polerouters, but I actually think the finishing of the Omega Pie pan Constellation models is done a little better

woodwkr2 · Mar 2, 2015

🙄 I'll never get tired of looking at that one, @jordn 👍

citizenrich · Mar 2, 2015

Some guy who sold me a watch told me that the very first designs by Mr. Genta himself, had no lines at all. 👎
UG was a lot of things and many times consistent wasn't one of 'em.
No logo crowns are correct (about half the time!). Confusing.

Tony C. · Mar 2, 2015

citizenrich
UG was a lot of things and many times consistent wasn't one of 'em.
No logo crowns are correct (about half the time!). Confusing.

Agreed. I have a gold-capped broad arrow with an unsigned crown that I believe to be original. I've seen more than few others, as well, though of course some are signed.

Jonatan · Mar 21, 2015

Just found a website which describes and documents the lifting of a Polerouter. Sorry it's in french and sorry if everyone knows about this. These days I seem to be wrong a lot.

http://forum.horlogerie-suisse.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21494

In the comments below, the author mentions "...envoyé à Paris ATELCA..." sent to Paris ATELCA. The conversation continues and they mention that many people seem to use ATELCA and that there is not a lot of dialog to be had with these people. You send in your dial and hope for the best. Some times it comes back very nice and some times not. It's always a surprise. I've included the website : http://www.atelierducadran.com/index.html

A close up picture shows that the lines do not meet the left most vertical line of the M and it even seems to cut right through the Universal Geneve Polerouter writing at the top of the watch. This could explain why there are actually a lot of different dials out there.

Severin · Jul 11, 2015

This has been a very informative thread for me - thank you all. Whereas we've established that (a) the crosshairs tend to come in at least three varieties as far as their relation to the upper text is concerned (through,broken, avoid entirely) and (b) the crosshairs do not bisect the Universal logo, have any of you ever seen a crosshair on a Polerouter Date that has done anything but go through the text? I have not come across any examples of the Polerouter Date that illustrate the "broken" or "avoid" kinds of variants shown above for non-Date models. Have any of you seen such examples? Looking forward to your thoughts on this.

Fost · Jul 11, 2015

As nobody noticed the pointed A of the Automatic on the OP Watch, i suspect this is not enough to conclude but it looks like all the dial on polerouter.com have flat A.

Jonatan · Aug 31, 2015

Fost
As nobody noticed the pointed A of the Automatic on the OP Watch, i suspect this is not enough to conclude but it looks like all the dial on polerouter.com have flat A.

You're right, it's strange that the Automatic has a pointed A but not the Universal

Jonatan · Sep 21, 2015

What is the final verdict?
Which cross hairs are originals which one are redials.I have this example here which I had qualified as a redial but I'm not sure anymore.I always thought that the cross hairs must meet the M.

jordn · Sep 21, 2015

Jonatan
What is the final verdict?
Which cross hairs are originals which one are redials.I have this example here which I had qualified as a redial but I'm not sure anymore.I always thought that the cross hairs must meet the M.

Your dial has in fact not been refinished and is a rather beautiful example. The crosshair aligning with the M is not necessarily a contributing factor for an authentic dial.

Severin · Sep 26, 2016

ELV web
The "A" on OP looks like a redial. Pointy....

Well observed, @ELV web!

gatorcpa · Sep 26, 2016

I have a Polerouter Jet with a similar dial:

DB002805-9AD0-492F-8F60-C33B708A4991_zps5av3fssl.jpg~original

The lugs on your watch are slightly different than mine, but the dial looks pretty much the same to me.

What is the case reference number?
gatorcpa

SpeedTar · Sep 27, 2016

Hi Everyone!!
I wanted to post a similar question, I guess it is better to not create another similar thread. So, could you help me to confirm it is a refinished dial (or not)?
To me the cross hair thickness is not ok, moreover never seen even in polerouter.de site a polerouter date with only mentionned POLEROUTER on the dial :

Sorry for the picture, for now it is the only one I have. Thanks!!

LaurentBxl · Sep 27, 2016

RandyTime
Does the dial on this Steel 138 SS appear to be original or a redial? My concern is over the lack of minute markers. I have seen photos of a number of gold Polerouters both Deluxe and regular without the minutes indices but never a photo of a steel watch dial without the markers.

Help needed -- Thanks

Here is mine for comparison (please no discussion about the hands 😀), it is also a 138 bumper, i think pretty close to the one you showed. I would go for redial on the OP watch because 1/ of the crosshair going over the logo, 2/absence of minutes markers as pointed out by the OP.

Polerouter Redial Question

Spike

eustace

Tony C.

gatorcpa

jordn

woodwkr2

citizenrich

Tony C.

Jonatan

Severin

Fost

Jonatan

Jonatan

jordn

Severin

gatorcpa

SpeedTar

LaurentBxl

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