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Diabolik
·What's going on here ?
Polerouter clones ???
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CafeRacer
·🙁
Fortunately the images look like renders - hopefully they never reach production.
Fortunately the images look like renders - hopefully they never reach production.
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JwRosenthal
·Oh no.
I have loads of respect for Eddie P and all that’s he’s done. He bought the name rights to Smiths and Precista for which I give him mad props (unlike Messana that just ripped off UG and made veiled references and was even denied model name rights). All of his military repro’s and themed watches are great and deserve respect considering they are in keeping with the brands he owns. I own the PRS-29 and it’s a spectacular watch.
I will cut him some slack on his Explorer clone- The Everest, as there is the Smiths connection to the Hilary expedition and frankly- Rolex can suck it.
His Expedition is a truly beautiful and original design based on the original Smiths Deluxe- and that watch deserves all the praise in the world (would love to own one one day). Even some of his other homage watches are nicely done and stray far enough away from being direct copies and in keeping with his brand legacies (although the Willard is a step too close to clone).
But this- dude....not cool. Smiths didn’t make a watch that looked like a Polerouter- this is flying too close to the sun for me.
I have loads of respect for Eddie P and all that’s he’s done. He bought the name rights to Smiths and Precista for which I give him mad props (unlike Messana that just ripped off UG and made veiled references and was even denied model name rights). All of his military repro’s and themed watches are great and deserve respect considering they are in keeping with the brands he owns. I own the PRS-29 and it’s a spectacular watch.
I will cut him some slack on his Explorer clone- The Everest, as there is the Smiths connection to the Hilary expedition and frankly- Rolex can suck it.
His Expedition is a truly beautiful and original design based on the original Smiths Deluxe- and that watch deserves all the praise in the world (would love to own one one day). Even some of his other homage watches are nicely done and stray far enough away from being direct copies and in keeping with his brand legacies (although the Willard is a step too close to clone).
But this- dude....not cool. Smiths didn’t make a watch that looked like a Polerouter- this is flying too close to the sun for me.
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ZIELSZIEK
·Oh no.
I have loads of respect for Eddie P and all that’s he’s done. He bought the name rights to Smiths and Precista for which I give him mad props (unlike Messana that just ripped off UG and made veiled references and was even denied model name rights). All of his military repro’s and themed watches are great and deserve respect considering they are in keeping with the brands he owns. I own the PRS-29 and it’s a spectacular watch.
I will cut him some slack on his Explorer clone- The Everest, as there is the Smiths connection to the Hilary expedition and frankly- Rolex can suck it.
His Expedition is a truly beautiful and original design based on the original Smiths Deluxe- and that watch deserves all the praise in the world (would love to own one one day). Even some of his other homage watches are nicely done and stray far enough away from being direct copies and in keeping with his brand legacies (although the Willard is a step too close to clone).
But this- dude....not cool. Smiths didn’t make a watch that looked like a Polerouter- this is flying too close to the sun for me.
I completely agree with what you have said. I feel like the brand has an incredible essence behind it and I have great respect for the owner. I don't know why he keeps diving into homage territory. Well, to cut a long story short I guess they sell...Not even going to mention that when the Everests are out of stock some flipper will try to sell for way over msrp, so they don't only emulate the look of the Explorer...they emulate the buying experience as well, to a limited extend.
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Fritz
·Smiths has some great history of its own. Why cheapen the name building replicas of someone else’s
whats next, a Smiths Submariner?
whats next, a Smiths Submariner?
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JwRosenthal
·I completely agree with what you have said. I feel like the brand has an incredible essence behind it and I have great respect for the owner. I don't know why he keeps diving into homage territory. Well, to cut a long story short I guess they sell...Not even going to mention that when the Everests are out of stock some flipper will try to sell for way over msrp, so they don't only emulate the look of the Explorer...they emulate the buying experience as well, to a limited extend.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorSmiths didn’t make a watch that looked like a Polerouter- this is flying too close to the sun for me.
https://www.timefactors.com/prs32.htm
A modern day Technos.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.I think its wrong to copy without attribution. I also think its wrong to ambush market the way Massina did. The folks who really deserve a flogging however are the one who own the UG brand and are doing nothing with it.
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WhereMadnessLies
·Seems like it is going to be called the "WorldMaster" PRS-54 and have a Miyota 9039 powering it. Apparently they have just ordered the prototypes. The design is a complete and utter rip off and some people will be fine with that, I wont be purchasing one though.
It's a bit of a shame really as smiths has a wonderful heritage and seeing it turn into a "Steinhartesk" company seems like a bit of wasted opportunity.
It's a bit of a shame really as smiths has a wonderful heritage and seeing it turn into a "Steinhartesk" company seems like a bit of wasted opportunity.
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JwRosenthal
·Smiths didn’t make a watch that looked like a Daytona either, but here we are.
https://www.timefactors.com/prs32.htm
A modern day Technos.
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Dan S
·When I saw the thread title, I thought it would be about these vintage clones:
(a @watchdaddy1 post from WUS)
(a @watchdaddy1 post from WUS)
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JwRosenthal
·I think its wrong to copy without attribution. I also think its wrong to ambush market the way Massina did. The folks who really deserve a flogging however are the one who own the UG brand and are doing nothing with it.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorSo long as the dials don’t say “Onega” or “Folex” on them and are not trying to be deceptive, my feeling is that the onus is on the watch companies to get involved if they want to.
These are big companies with armies of lawyers employed around the world. If they choose not to sue, then I can’t be too upset.
Swiss companies have been ripping off designs from other Swiss companies for over a century. Just because the Chinese, Americans, British or Japanese (looking at you, Seiko) do it, is no reason to complain now.
Buy it or don’t buy it. To me, it’s just a watch.
gatorcpa
These are big companies with armies of lawyers employed around the world. If they choose not to sue, then I can’t be too upset.
Swiss companies have been ripping off designs from other Swiss companies for over a century. Just because the Chinese, Americans, British or Japanese (looking at you, Seiko) do it, is no reason to complain now.
Buy it or don’t buy it. To me, it’s just a watch.
gatorcpa
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