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SkunkPrince
·No, movement.
Yes, model number. They were sold by movement number and that was also the model number.
"It's both a floor wax and a dessert topping!"
Edited to add: The cases had separate model numbers.
Pocket watches - what to buy, where to buy it?
Yes, model number. They were sold by movement number and that was also the model number.
"It's both a floor wax and a dessert topping!"
Edited to add: The cases had separate model numbers.
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Dan S
·Yes, model number. They were sold by movement number and that was also the model number.
"It's both a floor wax and a dessert topping!"
Edited to add: The cases had separate model numbers.
I see you've corrected yourself now. With respect to these Hamiltons, the term model was used to refer to cases, not the movement. The term "grade" would have been equivalent to movement. Here is some advertising. These are all different case models for a 992B grade PW. 992B is the movement.
Hang in there, OP. It's a different world. American pocket watches were often sold as mix and match components. But different makers did take different approaches. Some did have actual named models, with the model name on dial and movement.
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SkunkPrince
·It's too late at night to argue over which of us is a worse pedant.
The fact is, this watch is a stellar example and because they made a buttload of them, they are affordable, and can be very accurate in the right watchmaker's hands.
The fact is, this watch is a stellar example and because they made a buttload of them, they are affordable, and can be very accurate in the right watchmaker's hands.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaIt's too late at night to argue over which of us is a worse pedant.
The fact is, this watch is a stellar example and because they made a buttload of them, they are affordable, and can be very accurate in the right watchmaker's hands.
But the worse (actually should be "the worst") pedant wouldn't be a very good pedant at all would they?
In fact, to gain any credibility in pedantry, you would have to be the best pedant.
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Pvt-Public
·I see you've corrected yourself now. With respect to these Hamiltons, the term model was used to refer to cases, not the movement. The term "grade" would have been equivalent to movement. Here is some advertising. These are all different case models for a 992B grade PW. 992B is the movement.
Hang in there, OP. It's a different world. American pocket watches were often sold as mix and match components. But different makers did take different approaches. Some did have actual named models, with the model name on dial and movement.
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tyrantlizardrex
·Hamilton 992B. Affordable, fantastic watch. Choice of cases. If you get the right watchmaker, better than COSC specs.
They're great watches - but much harder, and more expensive to come by in the UK (where I believe @Crunchie is based) than in the US and Canada.
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Oku
·but any more tips, pictures, or recommendations are very welcome.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/wrucarrying-pocket-watch-friday-☼.104639/
Many nice watches there.
Also have a look at past watch auctions (Bonhams etc.) to get a feeling what you like. There are many expensive watches, but also many in your price range.
Do you prefer modern or pre-war? Also size (thickness, diameter) and material (gold, silver, steel) matter. Do you want a printed dial or enamel?
Am I the only one that remembers the fairly recent Oris pocket watch? I do wish I’d bought one new at the time.
Personally, if I were you, my criteria for a pocket watch would be as follows:
- branded dial, but maker doesn't need to be well known
- case not too thick and not too thin. If you want to wear the watch, thickness matters. But if it's too thin, the watch feels a bit cheap.
- pleasing dial in top condition. Don't go for watches where the dial has cracks or other blemishes. There are so many watches outside.
and now some examples, mostly within your budget:
The Audemars can be found at 1000 Euros, if you are lucky (14k Gold)
IWC definitely in your budget (silver)
The Lange is out of your budget, but similar British watches of lesser known makers can be found in your price range. (18k Gold)
If you are very lucky, you can find such a Zenith for 1000 GBP. (18k gold)
unbranded IWC in your budget (silver with gilt bezel)
small no name in your budget with cylinder escapement which can be a bit difficult
finally a branded IWC in a very thin (in terms of case, not height of the watch) 14k gold case:
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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fanI’ve always liked half-hunters, probably because I was given one after years of sitting exams (not always successfully).
I like a fully cased pocket watch but the advantage of one of these is that you can check the time without having to open the case.
This was my daily beater for fifteen years until Mrs Spruce firmly suggested that the time had come for me to stop wearing a waistcoat (and the watch) because I looked both anachronistic and pretentious 🙁
I like a fully cased pocket watch but the advantage of one of these is that you can check the time without having to open the case.
This was my daily beater for fifteen years until Mrs Spruce firmly suggested that the time had come for me to stop wearing a waistcoat (and the watch) because I looked both anachronistic and pretentious 🙁
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DaveK
··Yoda of YodelersIs that a model of watch or a movement? My research so far is at the mercy of badly written eBay adverts...
Welcome to the rabbit hole. There are snacks in the fridge, just don’t eat @Fritz ’s yogurt...
Case and dial configuration https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/254108073/m/1743914067
1st 992bs went out in Keystone Model 11 cases https://mb.nawcc.org/attachments/18-jpg.373105/
https://mb.nawcc.org/attachments/19-jpg.373106/
992b serial numbers
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/254108073/m/9293976487
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/american-pocket-watches-a-primer-for-the-wristwatch-collector
https://vorticwatches.com/blogs/the-vortic-blog/railroad-grade-pocket-watches
http://linuxfocus.org/~guido/hamilton-992b/
https://watchtime.me/life-style/vintage/article/832/a-short-history-of-railroad-watches
http://watchexpertise.com/?p=35
http://www.pocketwatchrepair.com/standards.html
https://kenrockwell.com/watches/hamilton/992b.htm
Regulating a Hamilton 992b http://linuxfocus.org/~guido/hamilton-992b/hamilton_tech_note_on_regulation.pdf
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Screwbacks
·local antique store or vintage watch group.😉
