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DaveK
··Yoda of YodelersHere is the Zenith Ladies 18k gold I bought my wife many years ago in its original box. She wears it as a necklace and gets lots of comments.
"Pocket watches"... out with 'em! Come on, lets see them!
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peterkirk01
·Seems to be small cut diamonds. The light reflects through the front case. I cannot exactly make out the monogram on the back. Her initials are RS and I keep saying that this is what the monogram says.
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peterkirk01
·No expert here. But my wife certainly likes it so even if they are cubic zirconium I am happy. Happy wife, happy life.
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Canuck
·No expert here. But my wife certainly likes it so even if they are cubic zirconium I am happy. Happy wife, happy life.
Cubic zirconia, Diamonaire, YAG, Moissanite, none of those were around when that lovely little watch was made. No worries.
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kcgunner
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Canuck
·🥰 Just, WOW! When a “like” simply isn’t sufficient! Can you show us the movement?
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river rat
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Waltham 23 jewel wind indicator railroad watch. With fob from the Buffalo Bill wild west show. With a Waltham window display. Both with wind indicators. That numbered style dial is called a Montgomery dial.
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Omegafanman
·So I dug out some watches from storage today - and found this which I had totally forgotten about. I am sure it is not valuable / it does still run despite the lack of TLC. I know nothing about English pocket watches and would be interested to know any information on this one/when it was made? I do like the blued hands / makes me think of my 6B/159 :0) Thanks in advance for any info.
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jimmyd13
·So I dug out some watches from storage today - and found this which I had totally forgotten about. I am sure it is not valuable / it does still run despite the lack of TLC. I know nothing about English pocket watches and would be interested to know any information on this one/when it was made? I do like the blued hands / makes me think of my 6B/159 :0) Thanks in advance for any info.
Marks for London, 1935. Sponsor is H Samuel who are now a chain of high street jewellers but we're originally quite decentanufacturing jewellers. A photo of the movement would help but it's a pretty common or garden silver pocket watch.
Edit to be clear: the London mark is an import mark. This isn't an English mase watch.
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Omegafanman
·Marks for London, 1935. Sponsor is H Samuel who are now a chain of high street jewellers but we're originally quite decentanufacturing jewellers. A photo of the movement would help but it's a pretty common or garden silver pocket watch.
Edit to be clear: the London mark is an import mark. This isn't an English mase watch.
Thanks for the info - I guessed it was nothing special. I thought it might be earlier than 1935 / based on the condition maybe it got bombed :0)
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OMTOM
·Is it an English watch? It has an English name on the dial but…
The hallmarks on the caseback tell us something. I am not a specialist – but I think the ‘HS’ (H.Samuel) is the registered sponsor’s mark (who submitted it to the assay office for testing). The Zodiac ‘sign of Leo’ indicates that it was assayed in London. The date letter ‘u’ is 1915 (which can span into 1916) and the .925 shows the grade of silver – and also indicates that it was imported (because otherwise there would have been a lion passant). So it’s not so old – and by this time, the Swiss makers had taken over from English makers (Omega still had a key-wound 19'''!).
The subject of hallmarks is quite big(!) – but of interest here would be a view of the movement. Can you oblige? Maybe we can then tell you where it came from.
Tom
The hallmarks on the caseback tell us something. I am not a specialist – but I think the ‘HS’ (H.Samuel) is the registered sponsor’s mark (who submitted it to the assay office for testing). The Zodiac ‘sign of Leo’ indicates that it was assayed in London. The date letter ‘u’ is 1915 (which can span into 1916) and the .925 shows the grade of silver – and also indicates that it was imported (because otherwise there would have been a lion passant). So it’s not so old – and by this time, the Swiss makers had taken over from English makers (Omega still had a key-wound 19'''!).
The subject of hallmarks is quite big(!) – but of interest here would be a view of the movement. Can you oblige? Maybe we can then tell you where it came from.
Tom
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Canuck
·It is possible that the date letter is from 1915-16. If you scroll down to the sterling silver (.925) information in the link I have provided, you will find that it was in about 1907 when the Swiss concluded that the English standard for sterling was .925, not .935 as they had thought. After 1907, the Swiss stamped these cases with the .925. This case was Swiss made, and it is marked .925, which would seem to indicate it was made after 1907. But I feel the general look of the watch indicates an earlier date. Possibly 1875-76.
Key set watches of English origin very often set from the front, as do many American ones. Swiss-made key set watches most often (in my experience) set from the back, as does the subject watch. Considering how the case is marked, I’d say definitely a Swiss product, totally.
https://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/swisshallmarks.php
If anyone can provide more definitive information, many of us would likely welcome it.
Key set watches of English origin very often set from the front, as do many American ones. Swiss-made key set watches most often (in my experience) set from the back, as does the subject watch. Considering how the case is marked, I’d say definitely a Swiss product, totally.
https://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/swisshallmarks.php
If anyone can provide more definitive information, many of us would likely welcome it.
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Omegafanman
·Is it an English watch? It has an English name on the dial but…
The hallmarks on the caseback tell us something. I am not a specialist – but I think the ‘HS’ (H.Samuel) is the registered sponsor’s mark (who submitted it to the assay office for testing). The Zodiac ‘sign of Leo’ indicates that it was assayed in London. The date letter ‘u’ is 1915 (which can span into 1916) and the .925 shows the grade of silver – and also indicates that it was imported (because otherwise there would have been a lion passant). So it’s not so old – and by this time, the Swiss makers had taken over from English makers (Omega still had a key-wound 19'''!).
The subject of hallmarks is quite big(!) – but of interest here would be a view of the movement. Can you oblige? Maybe we can then tell you where it came from.
Tom
Thanks to all for the info and responses. Showing my ignorance is the inner case likely to be hinged or a push fit?
I am a bit cautious as my only other 'pocket' watch is a 6B/221 stop watch, which was a push fit and needed a press tool to refit it correctly which I dont have. This pocket watch is back in storage but I can get it on Monday and will be happy to try and get a movement shot even if I need to pop into a watchmakers - It is alway interesting to learn about things and know the history.
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OMTOM
·There are quite a few of these on the internet (even up to 1920) - one currently for sale on eBay. It was clearly still a popular line (albeit very outdated by this time).
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