Pocket Watch - Grand Prix 1900

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Hi guys,

My knowledge about pocket watches is very very limited, as I never really paid much attention to it, until this guy showed up in my local watch guy shop, brought by an elderly lady, who wanted him to service it and try to sell it.

It seems similar to the one found on this post, coincidently also from a guy in Brazil https://omegaforums.net/threads/grand-prix-paris-1900-autenticity.65504/

If anyone of you have an idea on what price range would this be a good deal, and your thoughts on the watch and movement, please do let me know!

Here is a YouTube link to the video of the movement working:



Thanks!
 
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Firstly, let's forget the Grand Prix appellation, it was just a mark used by Omega on millions of pocket watches, and similar marks were also used by other watch companies at the time.

Some basic requirements to correctly identify an Omega pocket watch are:

Photographs to be in the correct orientation, i.e.:

For a Lépine (open face pocket watch where the crown is at 12 o'clock), the crown should be at the top.
For a Savonnette/Hunter (where the crown is at 3 o'clock), the crown should be at 90º.

This applies to both dial, case and movement shots.

Photos of the serial number should be clear and readable. The serial number may be on one of the bridges, or it may be on the plate under the dial.

Good clear photos of any stamps/hallmarks/makers marks on any part of the case.

The caliber number may be shown on the plate below the balance wheel, but not always shown on earlier movements.

To allow correct identification of the movement, a dimension across the movement where it sits in the case (not the total movement diameter or the case diameter) is required, e.g. 42.3mm.

From what I can see, the watch is a nice 18 carat gold Lépine, possibly with a 19''' movement with 15 jewels.

The case serial number dates the watch to approximately 1906.

The dial is white vitreous enamel with black "Paris" style Arabic hour markers and minute markers on the outer track. The sunken sub-seconds dial also uses the same numerals and the sub-seconds hand looks to be original. The main hour and minute hands are gold in what Omega refers to as "Louis XV" style. The Ω mark and the italicised "Omega" on the dial are correct for the period

It's a nice watch (with very minor damage), but I fear that the owner will lose money if she pays to get it serviced, she would be better selling it "as is" and letting the new owner attend to the service.
 
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Firstly, let's forget the Grand Prix appellation, it was just a mark used by Omega on millions of pocket watches, and similar marks were also used by other watch companies at the time.

Some basic requirements to correctly identify an Omega pocket watch are:

Photographs to be in the correct orientation, i.e.:

For a Lépine (open face pocket watch where the crown is at 12 o'clock), the crown should be at the top.
For a Savonnette/Hunter (where the crown is at 3 o'clock), the crown should be at 90º.

This applies to both dial, case and movement shots.

Photos of the serial number should be clear and readable. The serial number may be on one of the bridges, or it may be on the plate under the dial.

Good clear photos of any stamps/hallmarks/makers marks on any part of the case.

The caliber number may be shown on the plate below the balance wheel, but not always shown on earlier movements.

To allow correct identification of the movement, a dimension across the movement where it sits in the case (not the total movement diameter or the case diameter) is required, e.g. 42.3mm.

From what I can see, the watch is a nice 18 carat gold Lépine, possibly with a 19''' movement with 15 jewels.

The case serial number dates the watch to approximately 1906.

The dial is white vitreous enamel with black "Paris" style Arabic hour markers and minute markers on the outer track. The sunken sub-seconds dial also uses the same numerals and the sub-seconds hand looks to be original. The main hour and minute hands are gold in what Omega refers to as "Louis XV" style. The Ω mark and the italicised "Omega" on the dial are correct for the period

It's a nice watch (with very minor damage), but I fear that the owner will lose money if she pays to get it serviced, she would be better selling it "as is" and letting the new owner attend to the service.

wow JimInOz, thank you very much for the detailed information and education towards properly identifying these.

it watch looks very nice indeed, and so does the movement. As I’m not s pocket watch collector, I’ll probably pass on this, but learning more about it and cal 19 has been great, thank you.
FYI, the asking price for this piece by the lady is 2300 USD.
 
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She’s asking the buyer to pay for her sentimental attachment to the watch
 
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Yep, doesn't seem to be like a very good deal, which would be the only scenario I'd be interested in.
Thank you all for the knowledge shared!