Please help me with these two watches. Thanks

Hi everyone, very glad joined the forum and studied a lot about vintage watches here. Great forum, Great people here!

As a newbie,I just happen to find two Omega vintage watches very interesting and willing to purchase one of them. Found both watches from the same dealer. There are a few reasons why these two watches caught my eyeballs, they are both in solid gold, jumbo size, arabic numerials,vintage of course. I will post some photos of two watches, and please do excuse for the low resalution of the photos!
Watch 1:



Watch 2


Here are my questions,and hopefully can learn a bit more about the watches with your comments.
1. Are these two watches genuine, since rarely see dials with all 12 arabic numerals?

2. Are there any not genuine parts in these two watches,hands,dials,crown etc? I assume the watch 1 crown isn’t orginal? Watch 2 is very intresting since its got Arabic numerals over the printed minute marks.

3. Since these two watches are so in good conditions, and that triggered my alarms after a bit study in this forum. The dealer says the watches are "Revised and polished", I assume the dials are all restored, redialed? Are there any harms to the watch apart to decrease the value, say making the dial more easily oxidized?
I am fine with polishing, and I know it might be over polished to make it shining as a brand new watch.

4. For watch 1, the dealer says the caliber is 30.10RA, but there isnt any photo. The watch 2 doesnt say the caliber model, but with a photo of the inside.

5. Are both watches the types that can only be opened from the front? are there particular reasons why, or any notice should be made when wearing or service?

6. Finally, these two watches are priced around 1000 euros, any suggestion on the price?

Thanks for ur patience of reading, and I am appreciated if anyone is kind enough to leave any comments. As a newbie, do excuse for my ignorance~~ Cheers

1000 euro each or for the pair?

Hi there, around 1000euros each

I'd pass on both for myriad reasons but especially---
Watch one has been recased into a non-Omega case.
Watch two is such a bad redial that it hurts my eyeballs.
As I said before, both watches have more problems but these two issues, in my mind, warrant an automatic pass. You can find much better with a little patience. Keep an eye on the forum sales section.

Thanks Gordon. I naively thought the watches would be genuine from a dealer, at least not a recased one.

True. But there are too many redials on Internet. Guess have to stick with the forum sales.

Way too high, IMHO.
Or educate yourself so you can spot them.

Thank you,and could you calrify South American origin? Isnt all swiss made?

Wow, thanks for explaining! The dealer do come from Spain. By any chance u know the dial style matches any model or series? Could the dial also possibly made outside Swiss? I like the Arabic numerals a lot. Cheers

Both watches you posted are re-dials. With the first, the 6 and 12 are not lined up

Thanks, just realised the detail u mentioned.

true ! guess the dealer made up the dial...