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Please help convince my buyer that i sold a genuine watch

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I’m quoting all of this so it doesn’t disappear.

Pretty bold claims right here.
Yes but i stand by my claims. There are only like 3 high end replica factories around which are specialized to replicate omega watches.
A built from a real lemania movement and real omega service parts is something completely different
 
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Not all...not calling this a fake, but it's clearly not all genuine either.
Just out of curiosity, what's not genuine about it? Haven't seen a comment that mentioned anything...
 
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If he truly wants peace of mind then let him go to an Omega boutique.

Omega shops will never authenticate a watch. They, as well as other companies in the Swatch group (like Longines), charge money for an authentication service which requires the watch to be shipped to Switzerland to be dismounted and inspected. Indeed if your buyer doesn’t know what he’s buying he should refrain from making a private purchase of a high end watch. Sounds like he’s completely out of his depth and now turning around and making you pay the price for that.

Edit /add - I know nothing about these watches so cannot comment on it.
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Just out of curiosity, what's not genuine about it? Haven't seen a comment that mentioned anything...

It doesn't have an Omega movement.
 
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Syrte Syrte
Omega shops will never authenticate a watch. They, as well as other companies in the Swatch group (like Longines) charge money for an authentication service which requires the watch to be shipped to Switzerland to be dismounted and inspected. Indeed if your buyer doesn’t know what he’s buying he should refrain from making a private purchase of a high end watch. Sounds like he’s completely out of his depth and now turning around and making you pay the price for that.

Agreed. The buyer doesn't want to pay retail but hasn't the knowledge or experience to buy privately.

I'd simply get the watch back and refund and find a genuine buyer.
 
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Again this is not true. I know all highend speedy replicas. They have replicated lemania movements which however don’t match the correct subdial spacing. I know what you received but i know for certain that the chinese havent properly replicated lemania yet

They don't have to replicate Lemania...they just use a Lemania movement.
 
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They don't have to replicate Lemania...they just use a Lemania movement.
Again, this does not happen. You cannot buy a highend speedmaster pro replica with a real lemania movement.
 
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It doesn't have an Omega movement.
Oh, I thought you were talkign about the watch OP was talking about, now I understand you were talking about the watch in the link you attached. 📖
 
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I'm a bit of a novice, but if the Buyer gets a shop to open up the caseback and it is the correct Omega movement that matches the same serial number as on the lug and on the warranty card, wouldn't that pretty much prove that the watch is real?

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I'm a bit of a novice, but if the Buyer gets a shop to open up the caseback and it is the correct Omega movement that matches the same serial number as on the lug and on the warranty card, wouldn't that pretty much prove that the watch is real?

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What happens when the buyer does this, perhaps scratches a brand new watch in having it opened, but still isn't satisfied and wants to return it?
 
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What happens when the buyer does this, perhaps scratches a brand new watch in having it opened, but still isn't satisfied and wants to return it?
The Chrono 24 T&Cs seem to suggest that you just have to assert you have an issue with the authenticity to obtain a refund. I don't find the C24 T&Cs very clear, but they seem pretty stacked in favour of the buyer in that regard.
 
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What happens when the buyer does this, perhaps scratches a brand new watch in having it opened, but still isn't satisfied and wants to return it?
You list it as “Refurbished” ::facepalm1::
 
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Again, this does not happen. You cannot buy a highend speedmaster pro replica with a real lemania movement.

Since I've had one in my shop, I'll disagree completely. If you are interacting with your buyer the way you are here, I can understand why he's having second thoughts...
 
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What happens when the buyer does this, perhaps scratches a brand new watch in having it opened, but still isn't satisfied and wants to return it?

That would be a real mess, wouldn't it?

But if the serial number on the lug doesn't satisfy the Buyer, then I can't think of anything short of opening up the watch.

So, to summarize:
- the pictures of the watch and box look legit.
- the watch's serial number on the lug matches the Omega reference number for that limited edition.
- the serial number matches the one on the warranty card.
- the Buyer should be able to compare the look of the watch and box he received with what other real ones look like.

I'm thinking only the movement inside the watch could be the only possible issue.
Not sure how else to solve that concern, other than to open it up.

I'm thinking sending the watch back pre-paid and getting a refund might be the only other option.

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I know, but please if you want to help, Just confirm that the pictures show a real watch. Thx
I've studied this in detail and I can confirm this is really a watch.

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This is from the video i made prior to shipping the watch
What is from the video? There is no other detail in that post. Did you edit this?

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I know everything about the current high end fakes of Rolex and Omega watches.
Hmmm.

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Again this is not true. I know all highend speedy replicas.
Oh oh...

The way you write on here about your extensive knowledge of fake watches, I wouldn't have anything to do with you or any watch you are selling. In the end, it's all about trust and you can see why your buyer is nervous if you are making comments like these.

I have no idea if the watch you're selling is genuine. Perhaps if you have the original receipt then they would be satisfied. If not, take it back and sell it to someone else.

Chris
 
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Is it my imagination or did we all have our time wasted here by either a scammer or person with limited interpersonal skills. Or both.
 
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Is it my imagination or did we all have our time wasted here by either a scammer or person with limited interpersonal skills. Or both.
That’s honestly been my thoughts too
 
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I've studied this in detail and I can confirm this is really a watch.


What is from the video? There is no other detail in that post. Did you edit this?


Hmmm.


Oh oh...

The way you write on here about your extensive knowledge of fake watches, I wouldn't have anything to do with you or any watch you are selling. In the end, it's all about trust and you can see why your buyer is nervous if you are making comments like these.

I have no idea if the watch you're selling is genuine. Perhaps if you have the original receipt then they would be satisfied. If not, take it back and sell it to someone else.

Chris

I buy and sell watches regularly. Most of my watches come from private households. In order to verify a watch and all of its parts you gotta habe knowledge on the high end replica industry. Archer surely is a knowledgeable guy but i know for certain that there are no china fakes with real lemania parts out there.
If you are implying that i am not trustworthy because i know a lot about current replicas i welcome you to buy at a dealer with less knowledge. You might end up with a fake watch yourself...
 
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Perhaps if you have the original receipt then they would be satisfied. If not, take it back and sell it to someone else.
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