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eugeneandresson
·@Speedmasterfan88 please dont mention his name, it still kind of has a pavlovs-dog effect on me...🙁...😉
Please advise on this NOS Omega Speedmaster Professional
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Horologyhusky
·I have 2 pieces of NOS 3590.50. 1991 and 1994. Both are paperweights 😁
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderIts not NOS
But then most of the NOS pieces I get offered are not either.
In my entire buying, I have seen only two genuinely NOS speedmasters. And one wasn't for sale and the other was Euros5500 when you could buy a worn example for $1500.
The other thing, is what the hell am I going to do with a NOS?
To have one, I get that, but it is a total luxury in that it is more worry than pleasure unless the money means nothing to you.
But then most of the NOS pieces I get offered are not either.
In my entire buying, I have seen only two genuinely NOS speedmasters. And one wasn't for sale and the other was Euros5500 when you could buy a worn example for $1500.
The other thing, is what the hell am I going to do with a NOS?
To have one, I get that, but it is a total luxury in that it is more worry than pleasure unless the money means nothing to you.
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Stas
·wow, thanks everybody for your input!
This is exactly my logic... I can even keep 3570 for daily wear. Or sell it with minimum loss (I got it pre-owned). It will be produced forever I think. But tritium Speedies in good condition become more and more rare I think.
so true.. I do not want NOS, I want to wear it. Just want it to in the best condition possible, so this is why I got hooked. So maybe it is overkill for me
Absolutely yes 😀 It's worth a lot more actually. Where and when you will find another NOS? How many worn 3570 are out there? Gazzilion. I certainly won't sell mine for that price.
Now fast forward 10-15 years from now and compare a 1991 tritium NOS vs worn 3570? 😀
This is exactly my logic... I can even keep 3570 for daily wear. Or sell it with minimum loss (I got it pre-owned). It will be produced forever I think. But tritium Speedies in good condition become more and more rare I think.
The trouble with NOS watches is you can't wear them unless you don't mind spoiling the very thing you just paid extra for - ie perfect condition. However if you want a NOS Speedy then you won't see many for sale so if you're happy with the price pay it. My 2 cents.
so true.. I do not want NOS, I want to wear it. Just want it to in the best condition possible, so this is why I got hooked. So maybe it is overkill for me
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Stas
·I doubt this one to be NOS... minty yes but not NOS. seller pulled it from EBayKleinanzigen where pictures of the caseback were included, had signs of wear between the lugs and on the back. Funny those pictures don't show up in the eBay add. Fishy.... no box and papers, no hangtag nor a sticker or blue/pink protective gue on the back.
He describes it as unworn, maybe it is ... but not NOS as in NEW OLD STOCK never been sold....
Check the NOS thread on here to compare this one with truly NOS pieces ....
https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-nos-thread.7352/
Cheers,
Max
I feel like I also have seen more images there including some case back photos with the blue glue partially left on the back. Now they are gone.
Also using toilet paper instead of showing at least the box and cards on the photos is strange for such "NOS" deal.
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Speedmasterfan88
·wow, thanks everybody for your input!
This is exactly my logic... I can even keep 3570 for daily wear. Or sell it with minimum loss (I got it pre-owned). It will be produced forever I think. But tritium Speedies in good condition become more and more rare I think.
so true.. I do not want NOS, I want to wear it. Just want it to in the best condition possible, so this is why I got hooked. So maybe it is overkill for me
If you want it to be in the best condition possible and don't want to denote the value of a NOS piece by wearing it, find to most beaten up and worn 90's Speedy you can and send it over to STS and let them refinish the case and Service it.
Will it have the same intrinsic value as a mint untouched speedy? No. Will it be decreasing in value from wear as a NOS piece would? No.
Just an alternative route 😉.
Ps: Given the fact you found this watch on eBay Germany, if you need someone inside germany who's doing excellent case refinishing work shoot me a PM.
Cheers,
Max
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eugeneandresson
·The other thing, is what the hell am I going to do with a NOS?
a) Most beautiful time-telling paperweights ever...
b) Suspend in amber, creating transparent bricks, and stack 'em in the lounge...
c) Flog them for a serious profit at the auctions in X years...judging by the latest crazyness its only going to get worse (or better, depending on point of view)...
d) Pull a Mad-Dog, and wear them as the most beautiful horological (velcro) necklace (ok ok, for your admirers to tell the time)...
e) Pull a Mad-Dog, and wear them as the most beautiful horological (velcro) belt (might be odd to others seeing one always checking out the crotch but who cares...)...
f) Suspend them on nylon line, about 0.5m above the bed, at arms reach...
g) My favourite : post them to me! I'll make them Old Stock...and return them one day...promise...
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ac106
·it's irrelevant if you wear it or not in the future, we are looking at a NOS unworn piece and we treat it as such. The potential and rarity are huge, whether the new owner wants to wear it that is totally up to him. A NOS unworn piece will always be collectable and command a premium compared to the same model used.
In todays market that is very good price and the only thing why I'm not buying it is because the seller doesn't take paypal and for me that rings "scam" on ebay
You might think it's overpriced but it's simply not in this market.
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true.
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Thrasher36
·Love the watch the other Drama I dont know as I'm new here
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tyrantlizardrex
·At this stage, I think you could write Speedmaster on a fresh dog poop, call it NOS, and someone on this forum would jump in to say that it's not only rare, but worth several thousand dollars more than the asking.
I can see why the Squirrel thought the world had gone mad... it has.
So let's cut the crap.
This is a good condition, early/mid 1990s Speedmaster, no box or papers, no service history - and should be bought as such - factor in £300-£500 for a service - then wear it.
As to the OPs original question, which was essentially, "should I buy this as an investment, because tritium" - no, buy it because you want it, and you like it, and can afford it - all other reasons are idiotic.
I can see why the Squirrel thought the world had gone mad... it has.
So let's cut the crap.
This is a good condition, early/mid 1990s Speedmaster, no box or papers, no service history - and should be bought as such - factor in £300-£500 for a service - then wear it.
As to the OPs original question, which was essentially, "should I buy this as an investment, because tritium" - no, buy it because you want it, and you like it, and can afford it - all other reasons are idiotic.
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cagkut
·As to the OPs original question, which was essentially, "should I buy this as an investment, because tritium" - no, buy it because you want it, and you like it, and can afford it - all other reasons are idiotic.
Totally agree. Anyone who believes that buying a watch for investment is in the wrong. Just because vintage watch prices tripled within the last decade does not mean that they will keep doing so and considering hundreds of mil people living on less than a dollar a day, cashing out thousands to buy a watch may one day come out as a stupid thing to do and that day may not be very far from today.
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tyrantlizardrex
·Totally agree. Anyone who believes that buying a watch for investment is in the wrong. Just because vintage watch prices tripled within the last decade does not mean that they will keep doing so and considering hundreds of mil people living on less than a dollar a day, cashing out thousands to buy a watch may one day come out as a stupid thing to do and that day may not be very far from today.
Even at a few levels below that, buying something you don't like, because other people think it's cool... what?
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Edward53
·the only thing why I'm not buying it is because the seller doesn't take paypal and for me that rings "scam" on ebay
I can't see the listing because ebay is not recognising the number, and I do know how to get onto ebay.de. But in itself the above isn't an alarm bell because German ebay users aren't forced to take paypal like the rest of us, and bank transfer only is the rule there rather than the exception.
There's only kitchen roll in the pic I can see. If anyone calls that toilet paper, I wouldn't want to be caught short at their house.
Jeez, I'm glad I don't collect Speedmasters.
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cagkut
·There's only kitchen roll in the pic I can see. If anyone calls that toilet paper, I wouldn't want to be caught short at their house.
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Stas
·Totally agree. Anyone who believes that buying a watch for investment is in the wrong. Just because vintage watch prices tripled within the last decade does not mean that they will keep doing so and considering hundreds of mil people living on less than a dollar a day, cashing out thousands to buy a watch may one day come out as a stupid thing to do and that day may not be very far from today.
Thanks. I'm not looking for an investment piece. I want to wear it and understand that even if prices will keep growing I need servicing an old chronograph every 5-7 years. And I know the costs.
I'm driven purely by aesthetics and fear that in a few years from now they will be even more expensive and rare. Just remember a line from Fratellowatches: "It might be wise to find a nice 1990s Speedmaster Pro with tritium dial and hands with box and papers. While you still can."
However, more I think, more I like my 3570.00.
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Davidt
·1980's/90's Speedmasters are not rare. There are plenty around and they offer great value IMO as the tritium from this period often has a lovely colour. Furthermore, they as they are still reasonably new, they can be found in good condition, yet prices are reasonable as they are too old to be considered new (or current model), yet too new to be vintage.
If you're wanting a good daily wearer, there is no need to pay this premium. Spend a bit of time looking (consider getting in touch with some of the main sellers on the forum?) for a good example, get it serviced and you're good to go?
If you're wanting a good daily wearer, there is no need to pay this premium. Spend a bit of time looking (consider getting in touch with some of the main sellers on the forum?) for a good example, get it serviced and you're good to go?
