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queriver
·If watches could talk I'd love to listen to this ones life story.
People have gone crazy. Completely destoryed, possibly, maybe ultraman on eBay
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asrnj77
·What happened to ebay authenticators?
I know you’re kidding but eBay “Authenticators” would just verify that this is in an actual Omega watch (if they were involved). They won’t/can’t authenticate that each piece is original to the watch. They can only say it’s not a Chinese copy. This is primarily to make Rolex buyers feel better about buying on eBay. I only bring this up for anybody that thinks that eBay is going to classify something as inauthentic if it has service parts or aftermarket hands.
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arkman
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Dero13
·Its already up to 6k USD? The dial is cool but in that condition I wouldn't touch it
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cvrle1
·If that turned up in my mail I'd strip it and send the movement to @Archer, the dial to @Nick Hacko and the case to @photo500.
I wonder if even their magic and craftsmanship would be able to restore this watch to its former glory (honest question btw) Seeing how it is at close to $6K already I would better be 100% sure it can be restored fully before throwing this kind of money at it (and it will keep going up as well I am sure).
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ndgal
·I wonder if even their magic and craftsmanship would be able to restore this watch to its former glory (honest question btw) Seeing how it is at close to $6K already I would better be 100% sure it can be restored fully before throwing this kind of money at it (and it will keep going up as well I am sure).
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malilis
·I know people are crazy about Ultraman Speedmaster, and will spend lots of $ to get one, but some people take this to the extreme.
One popped up that could possibly be Ultraman (complete guess without extract) watch looks like it spent weeks in salt water, completely destroyed, and somehow it reached $2K bid already 🤨
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OMEGA-SPEE...VINTAGE-FOR-RESTORE-OR-PARTS-JBC/274524212922
Why????
The auction is at the level of 6k now .. it's a lot of money for a watch that needs quite a bit of restoration work ..! However it could very well be that it looks more terrible than is in reality .. actually I recall a GMT rolex in a even more horrible state (more rust if at all possible) that a FAM member managed to put back in shape .. a lot of work, an interesting thread ! The dial of this rolex had to be redone. I do not think the bidders here would take such a risk if it was not worth, I believe they know that it is possible to restore it and of course considering the value of that model when in an acceptable shape ..
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderThere is a strong chance this could get an extract stating a blue dial.
it is possible that the orange hand is not the correct length. As we only really have the minute track test to go on, note that the blue dials minute track layout might not give the same reference points as a standard black dial. See the dial edge which shows a gap between the case and the dial edge which is often covered by the rehaut but is visible here. So the dial might be slightly smaller diameter. Enough to confuse the length test.
I would not be looking at this for a Ultraman hand.
The movement will clean up in the right hands. The case will be ok.
the difficulty will be finding the right fat neck pushers - which you need for this, you can’t put service ones on it will look terrible.
and it will need a bezel, although you could go with an inexpensive meteor bezel.
at $2,000 I loved this watch.
At $6,000 it loses a lot of its appeal.
At 10,000 (which it isn’t at yet) It’s a poor condition watch that is heading towards being compared with other rare dials. And it will just look like a lot of money for something with a lot of damage.
but I can see how people get there:
a top blue in Ed white case has sold for $75,000
A very good blue in a 105012 sold for around $28,000
it is possible that the orange hand is not the correct length. As we only really have the minute track test to go on, note that the blue dials minute track layout might not give the same reference points as a standard black dial. See the dial edge which shows a gap between the case and the dial edge which is often covered by the rehaut but is visible here. So the dial might be slightly smaller diameter. Enough to confuse the length test.
I would not be looking at this for a Ultraman hand.
The movement will clean up in the right hands. The case will be ok.
the difficulty will be finding the right fat neck pushers - which you need for this, you can’t put service ones on it will look terrible.
and it will need a bezel, although you could go with an inexpensive meteor bezel.
at $2,000 I loved this watch.
At $6,000 it loses a lot of its appeal.
At 10,000 (which it isn’t at yet) It’s a poor condition watch that is heading towards being compared with other rare dials. And it will just look like a lot of money for something with a lot of damage.
but I can see how people get there:
a top blue in Ed white case has sold for $75,000
A very good blue in a 105012 sold for around $28,000
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Lonestar
·I know you’re kidding but eBay “Authenticators” would just verify that this is in an actual Omega watch (if they were involved). They won’t/can’t authenticate that each piece is original to the watch. They can only say it’s not a Chinese copy. This is primarily to make Rolex buyers feel better about buying on eBay. I only bring this up for anybody that thinks that eBay is going to classify something as inauthentic if it has service parts or aftermarket hands.
sorry for the off-topic drift but this is interesting - is it your interpretation of how the "authentication" is going to work like, or do you have insider info about what they will really do with this mandate? Thank you.
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Frederic_gva
·As others have said, I think the bidding interest on this one is due to the soleil dial and not the chrono hand. That said, I don't think even the most skilled dial restoration workshops in the world could turn this into a beautiful soleil again (and even if they did, not sure that it would even be in the same zip code as original dials). At a minimum, the auction will provide some cheap entertainment for us in the peanut gallery.
Hi Rob,
Don't you think the dial is too much damaged to restore it ?
personally I would not even spend 500 usd on this watch
it already has 35 bids and price has reached 6k...
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderYou cannot restore that dial, and the dial is the heart of the value
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Frederic_gva
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this is what I thought too.... thanks for confirming
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Nla91
·There is a strong chance this could get an extract stating a blue dial.
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wristpirate
·Now $8,900
I find it attractive and can sort of get my head around the flurry of bids
I find it attractive and can sort of get my head around the flurry of bids
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderI might have missed something but how can a 70's service dial be mentioned on the extract?
not all, if any, blue soleil dials are service dials. Thinking has changed in light of new evidence.
One metalic bluish dial surfaced recently in the WOK auction but that was a dial manufacturers sample and offered as such.
It used to be the thinking until recently that these blues were service dials - but then Omega started confirming some blue dials as original from factory.
The one I show has an extract of the archives confirming it.
in fact all the blue dials I know of have extracts now. Apart from the sample dials.
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Lonestar
·not all, if any, blue soleil dials are service dials. Thinking has changed in light of new evidence.
One metalic bluish dial surfaced recently in the WOK auction but that was a dial manufacturers sample and offered as such.
It used to be the thinking until recently that these blues were service dials - but then Omega started confirming some blue dials as original from factory.
The one I show has an extract of the archives confirming it.
in fact all the blue dials I know of have extracts now. Apart from the sample dials.
Hi William,
Thanks for the explanation. Do think that there are records in the archive that carry that "blue dial" piece of information in them - or rather than this is part of the "new" process, where the team at the museum is more keen to write a description in the EoA that matches the current look of the watch as submitted when requesting the EoA? I am still somewhat confused by this.
Thank you,
Paul
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Frederic_gva
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behave Arwind.... behave..... lol
