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Our home, Earth, is crumbling in front of our eyes...
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perks713
·I don't attempt to compel adherence to my religion and don't arrogantly insinuate that disbelievers simply require "education."
I personally believe that the climate crisis is helped along by human activity, I may use different studies or reports to help educate someone on the subject if their primary source of information is their preferred cable news echo chamber.
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pdxleaf
··"I cut it TWICE and it's still short!"Also, as I understand christianity (I have no knowledge of buddhism, muslims, and others) is that a person must have faith, as opposed to sticking your finger in Christ's wounds to see for yourself. Except you have faith, etc...
Climate change is science. It doesn't ask for faith, nor is it restricted to any one religious belief.
Climate change is science. It doesn't ask for faith, nor is it restricted to any one religious belief.
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Evitzee
·Climate change is science. It doesn't ask for faith, nor is it restricted to any one religious belief.
But a relatively poorly understood science at this point as explained by Judith Curry who is a climate scientist herself. Much is unknown.
5 minutes | Climate Etc. (judithcurry.com)
The general doom and gloom of the comments here are just not born out by reality, we are NOT on the precipice of extinction and won't be for the foreseeable future. Humans are ingenious, we will figure out how to live with a warming planet, it's not a doomsday scenario.
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MTROIS
·But a relatively poorly understood science at this point as explained by Judith Curry who is a climate scientist herself. Much is unknown.
5 minutes | Climate Etc. (judithcurry.com)
The general doom and gloom of the comments here are just not born out by reality, we are NOT on the precipice of extinction and won't be for the foreseeable future. Humans are ingenious, we will figure out how to live with a warming planet, it's not a doomsday scenario.
And as ingenious as we may be, we can't do miracles.
Anyhow, I was really enjoying all the constructive input and suggestions, so let's get back on topic please. 👍
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·But a relatively poorly understood science at this point as explained by Judith Curry who is a climate scientist herself. Much is unknown.
5 minutes | Climate Etc. (judithcurry.com)
The general doom and gloom of the comments here are just not born out by reality, we are NOT on the precipice of extinction and won't be for the foreseeable future. Humans are ingenious, we will figure out how to live with a warming planet, it's not a doomsday scenario.
Interesting view, especially the "foreseeable future" statement.
A major issue is the fact that humans (myself included) are generally more focused on "now" vs the future, especially if that future is "someone else's problem"
Avoiding change under the presumption that future humans will be able to adapt is impressively selfish.
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Getting back on topic, our community offers centralized recycle bins. We keep separate containers for our recyclables and make a trip 1-2 times/week. It has become fun for the family, and the goal is to make it something my kids enjoy instead of a burden.
We also have food bearing plants that we use to the best of our ability, though the heat lately has been hard on them.
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Dero13
·I bought a Tesla this year... hopefully the less gas consumption helps. Also eat a lot less meat and completely no seafood.
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·I think there is a good discussion and exchange of views on this thread. As a technological species we are hardly out of nappies so nobody fully has the 100% answers / insufficient data set. For sure the basic graphs show a trend of too many people and a reduction in biomass diversity over a short period which won’t be good for us. In some countries the population does seem to level off. Higher populations / extended (but often sickly life’s) tend to push us towards more government controls, synthesised foods and big Pharma which might also suit the powers that be and the money people at the very top. In the UK we now have livestock one side of the country and arable the other. Soil health is diminishing- intensive farming and grain fed livestock... it’s not the cow but the how :0). The situation is being addressed. Irrespective of urgency levels more consideration to sustainability seems logical given our limited knowledge.
I do think Nuclear (hopefully fusion one day) is a necessary evil for the energy needs. The trouble is it is so linked to weapons that open development / information exchange has been very limited. Speaking of which there are other forms of instant global warming / quick planet crumbling we need keep on our radar ;0)
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I do think Nuclear (hopefully fusion one day) is a necessary evil for the energy needs. The trouble is it is so linked to weapons that open development / information exchange has been very limited. Speaking of which there are other forms of instant global warming / quick planet crumbling we need keep on our radar ;0)
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Premaster
·Humans are ingenious,
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberI see a lot of talk about the debt this generation is leaving to their children and grandchildren, but from some groups this talk is all about money. The bigger debt is the environmental one that is being left for future generations to deal with.
This is quite correct. Monetary debts, which are largely assets of the wealthy, can be defaulted on, or excused through debt jubilees, and life will not only continue, but in a more healthy manner. Serious degradation of the environment is certain to produce vastly more dire consequences.
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pdxleaf
··"I cut it TWICE and it's still short!"Just for the record, I don't feel very virtuous (also not saying any comment was directed at me.) Also not falsely modest. It will not take much effort to convince anyone of my lack of virtue.
Hopefully we're all good here.
Hopefully we're all good here.
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Observer
·I started paying 3-4 times as much for my eggs and butter, more for the quality of my diet than anything else. I put the appropriate items in the recycle bins but have no idea how much they’re actually recycled in the end. Not that I really care as long as they aren’t dumped in the rivers or oceans. I believe in minimizing waste and pollution as much as is practical. On the other hand, the climate has always been changing, climate change models have yet to predict anything (even the past), and trying to quantify human effects on the earth’s temperatures has been no more successful or scientific than economics. In both cases, funding seems to be the greatest driver of research outcomes. I do what I think is right, but don’t take the people I perceive to be Chicken Little’s seriously.
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Walrus
·Now myself on the other hand I have no qualms about virtue signaling. Here I am about to cut this monstrosity up. Normally I would wear my Vostok to assist me but it looks pretty simple and I should have this cut up in no time. Yes, if I don’t like how it looks I put a chainsaw to it, I am always willing to do my part, I am the queen of virtue signaling can I @ myself to make sure I pat myself on the back later
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·Now myself on the other hand I have no qualms about virtue signaling. Here I am about to cut this monstrosity up. Normally I would wear my Vostok to assist me but it looks pretty simple and I should have this cut up in no time. Yes, if I don’t like how it looks I put a chainsaw to it, I am always willing to do my part, I am the queen of virtue signaling can I @ myself to make sure I pat myself on the back later
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Walrus
·Ok anyone in the area I still got plenty of gas left. Ha ha, my doctor told me I’d never be able to do stuff like this again, oh wait I think he said I shouldn’t do stuff like this guess I should clarify that. Now this thorn bush let me know I was not cool.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerOk anyone in the area I still got plenty of gas left. Ha ha, my doctor told me I’d never be able to do stuff like this again, oh wait I think he said I shouldn’t do stuff like this guess I should clarify that. Now this thorn bush let me know I was not cool.
Not sure what that bush is specifically, but we have an invasive species here called Buckthorn, that I get my chain saw out for too.
Buckthorn - Ontario Invasive Plant Council (ontarioinvasiveplants.ca)
Not a pleasant plant...
My saw is electric, but still needs chain oil, and the decision to get electric was more because I don't want the hassle of mixing oil and gas, for something I only use maybe once or twice a year.
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·...And I try and buy quality stuff that lasts and repair it. My TVs are from 2008 and 2009. My laptop from 2015. I replaced my iPhone last year when it was seven years old - my previous phone I had for 12 years....
My employer provides me with a cell phone. Every 3 years we can get a free new one. I kept my last old one and it is connected to a nice Bose wireless speaker and serves as the home stereo. I’ve passed the 3yr mark with my iPhone now, and don’t plan to upgrade until I need to (when it starts starts to slow down, the battery life degrades too much or it stops being updated by Apple). It was actually hard to not get out a new toy, but honestly I didn’t need one. Consumerism is such a habit and addiction.