Our home, Earth, is crumbling in front of our eyes...

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All drive through food establishments are taxed £1 per order on all food handed over to customers,this money then goes directly to the local authorities to pay people to go round picking it when the bone idle purchaser throws it out of the window.or just ban drive through altogether.the world is being destroyed before our eyes,stop buying crap.
 
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Being an avid thrifter my entire life, I rarely buy anything new. I have infected my wife with the bug as well. Our home is entirely furnished second hand (we have some insanely good consignment stores in our area). Clothing is also thrift/consignment other than undergarments and shoes (and like others- buy ones that can be resoled other than runners).
The amount of consumer goods that are already out in the world is insane- no need to buy new- the ultimate recycling. And the hunt is part of the fun.

I guess, that is the future for all of us, however only after a couple of more ecological and economical desasters, that will certainly follow. As long as growth is the main key figure of public and privat economy, nothing will change. E-Bikes and battery driven cars want to be sold/bought too and lead to the ongoing exploitation of our natural resources. And look at what some of the BRIC countries do in Brazil or Africa.

The extinction of our species within the coming decades is inevitable, let us face reality. Nevertheless personally I try to do as much as I can to reduce consumption of throw-away products and services. I wear my clothes longer than I used to, have no car, eat no meat anymore, stay in my own country for holidays etc. At least, we in the rich countries are in the comfortable situation to calm our consciousness with recycling and becoming more sensitive for environmental issues. The unfair is, that the poor people in countries with a small individual ecological footprint are always struck first by the consequences...
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...The extinction of our species within the coming decades is inevitable, let us face reality....

The unfair is, that the poor people in countries with a small individual ecological footprint are always struck first by the consequences...

This is the dilemma that may make the OP's question moot about changes in our personal lives that will revert the tide.

The ocean's, tundra, icecaps and glaciers suggest that we have passed the tipping point and there is no alternative to massive death. (Perhaps not extinction, but the disntinction is irrelevant.)

Any personal reductions tend to be insufficient to the scale of the problem and are offset by competing needs.

Therefore, assuming it's still possible to stop the source of additional carbon, methane emissions (a big assumption), it needs to be done quickly and to the scale of the problem, which is worldwide. Two large sources are cattle (as already mentioned) and energy emissions.

It seems we either need to reduce the need to consume or to find replacements. Replacing beef for other food seems doable. Alternatives exist.

Besides stopping cattle production (stop eating beef), I personally struggle with admiiting that we need to switch to small nuclear plants, as well as increasing solar and wind (not to say I struggle with increaing solar and wind but those aren'tenough.) The demand for energy is not going to decrease worldwide. Therefore, we need an alternative and it needs to be quick.

The only practical solution that I know of is nuclear. It's like chemotherapy for the Earth. It may kill the patient but the patient is going to die without it. Is there a realistic alternative?

It's a terrible situation where people accept that it is a better future for humanity to not have children than to have children live in the world we've created. Not having children has become an understandable position. I am not advocating for having children, but instead pointing out that it says volumes about the scale of the problem. If that's the solution for all of us then we're cooked, there's nothing to be done and we might as well stop, and if so, then what have we to lose to try the nuclear option (choice of words intended?)

These are my candid musings in the middle of the night when I cannot sleep.
 
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You’d hope but evidence is to the contrary.

That's why the voting part is especially important.
 
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As long as growth is the main key figure of public and privat economy, nothing will change.

Agreed.
 
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I wish I didn't have a little child..He is nine years old and will be on Earth when the shit really hits the fan..
We adjust or lifestyle, recycle, don't buy things from China that are already ready for the landfill as soon as they left the factory, don't eat cheap dead animals and so on..
But I'm afraid that this is too small scale to have the needed impact, even if many individuals do the same..
As long as China continous to build Coal-powerplants and Bolsonaro chops the Rainforest, we can't stop the climate change..
 
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This is the dilemma that may make the OP's question moot about changes in our personal lives that will revert the tide.

The ocean's, tundra, icecaps and glaciers suggest that we have passed the tipping point and there is no alternative to massive death. (Perhaps not extinction, but the disntinction is irrelevant.)

Any personal reductions tend to be insufficient to the scale of the problem and are offset by competing needs.

Therefore, assuming it's still possible to stop the source of additional carbon, methane emissions (a big assumption), it needs to be done quickly and to the scale of the problem, which is worldwide. Two large sources are cattle (as already mentioned) and energy emissions.

It seems we either need to reduce the need to consume or to find replacements. Replacing beef for other food seems doable. Alternatives exist.

Besides stopping cattle production (stop eating beef), I personally struggle with admiiting that we need to switch to small nuclear plants, as well as increasing solar and wind (not to say I struggle with increaing solar and wind but those aren'tenough.) The demand for energy is not going to decrease worldwide. Therefore, we need an alternative and it needs to be quick.

The only practical solution that I know of is nuclear. It's like chemotherapy for the Earth. It may kill the patient but the patient is going to die without it. Is there a realistic alternative?

It's a terrible situation where people accept that it is a better future for humanity to not have children than to have children live in the world we've created. Not having children has become an understandable position. I am not advocating for having children, but instead pointing out that it says volumes about the scale of the problem. If that's the solution for all of us then we're cooked, there's nothing to be done and we might as well stop, and if so, then what have we to lose to try the nuclear option (choice of words intended?)

These are my candid musings in the middle of the night when I cannot sleep.

Going back to my first post I do think overpopulation and industrialisation are a central point. We almost need to give a continent back to nature. Another way to looks at it are the biomass stats.
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This is the most depressing thread I’ve ever read. We are ardent environmentalists and do everything we can to reduce/reuse/recycle - in that order. A lot of people think they are doing the right thing by simply recycling, but as many others here have pointed out, the first step is to reduce consumption.
 
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we probably all need to dispense with the expensive wristwatches and go with one of these eternal timepieces

Goddammit, I don’t believe it! I posted a redial.
 
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The sage said it best….I wish I could disagree. Humanity does not seem inclined to save itself. We practice source reduction, composting, recycling, repair vs replace. It’s not going to be enough.

“We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this shit. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!

We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”

Plastic… asshole.”
 
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I grew up in Los Angeles during one of the worst prolonged droughts in the city’s history- this was what I was raised with. There were signs in public bathrooms that read this (I also remember having to ask my mother for a dime to use the pay toilets)..

I grew up in Connecticut and now live in Vermont. Vermont does a ton to try and “go green” - lots of incentives to get solar, use led bulbs, put in a heat pump, etc. We recently were forced to start composting (which I admit we tried to start several times and stopped several times) and are seeing a large decrease in garbage ending up in the landfill. We’re a small state with only 700,000 people but these programs are a combination of public and private funding. It’s not the kind of thing that easily scales but it’s a model I wish more places tried to follow. The cash incentives to have solar panels in Vermont are huge compared to those in Florida, which just seems crazy to me. We get a fraction of the sun, it all comes down to politics. Vote.
 
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Voting is not a solution to this problem. Education is. Education is a requirement for informed voting. Unfortunately a lot of voting is done by the uninformed or those informed with false information/beliefs.
 
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Voting is not a solution to this problem. Education is. Education is a requirement for informed voting. Unfortunately a lot of voting is done by the uninformed or those informed with false information/beliefs.

True.

If we're totally real about this, we're doomed.

People won't get vaccinated when they see people dying now.

People won't change their eating habits when they themselves are dying right now.

Half of America hates the other half so much that they are willing to burn down their own house just to hurt the other side. (This matters to the rest of the world because USA is a major emitter. )

Getting agreement to make extraordinary changes rapidly in order to solve a future problem is fantasy, imho.

Everything people are doing here is laudable. But these should be ordinary habits. What we need now is extraordinary. NFW.

Do I take the blue pill or the red pill? Those are the choices (again, imho).

Now back to our regularly scheduled forum already in progress...
 
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That’s true, and just saying vote is too simplistic anyway. Too many people are single issue voters, at least in my country. Lower taxes and the rest be damned. Education is key.

In the mean time I’ll vote with my wallet, support companies that support the environmental beliefs I have and do what I can to cut down on waste in my own home.
 
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How many people here own (and continue to acquire) unnecessary watches?
 
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How many people here own (and continue to acquire) unnecessary watches?
Me. And I will likely buy more.
 
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These extreme weather events are really sad. The fires in California and Australia and now the flooding. 🙁 However, I have enjoyed reading what others are doing to help. Here is some of what I try to do:

Food
- I eat a plant based diet
- try to grow a vegetable garden, but I am not very good at it. I plant native foods around my property and done a little restoration in the forest next to my house. I removed about 75 m^2 of a dense invasive plant and planted many native berries (red and evergreen huckleberry, native blackberry, salal, Oregon grape, Black-cap raspberries, thimble berries, salmon berry, Indian plum, a couple varieties of wild current and wild gooseberry). I also have planted blueberries, 2 cherry trees, two apple trees, a plum, and an pluot tree as well as Chilean guava.
- My goal is to buy locally grown food in season, but I also like to buy fair-trade food imported from developing countries.
- I try to make food from scratch to minimize packaging: dry beans, oats, rice, etc. A pressure cooker helps make the dry beans, and uses less energy.

Family
My wife and I chose to adopt older children from foster care, because we did not want to contribute to population growth and we also wanted to provide a good home to children who would likely not be adopted by others.

Goods
Like others we buy quality goods and make them last, do secondhand shopping and buy less. My wife is a minimalist and I aspire to be more that way. Also renting can be a good option. I often rent tools that I only occasionally use.

Transportation
I could certainly improve here. We have reasonably fuel efficient cars and keep them for a long time. My wife has a 2006 and I have a 2016. I sometimes carpool.
You Sir are a good guy and your wife a good lady.
It’s the little things that matter and your doing it. Continued luck and happiness with the fostering.
 
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Not enough.

But a few...


And planted all these...



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Last, as others have said, vote.
Superb, very impressive well done.
 
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How many people here own (and continue to acquire) unnecessary watches?
I haven’t owned a “necessary” watch since before my first mobile phone. And there’s a middle path in there between wasteful consumption and renunciation of every aspect of modern life. Every choice matters to some degree, but some choices matter more.