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Opinion on this 1969 Vintage SpeedMaster Professional Please

  1. Kingls

    Kingls Aug 14, 2019

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    Hi Guys,

    I just purchased this watch and wanted to see what you guys think. Does it look original etc.. I spent hours looking but at the end of the day you guys on here are amazing and much better than me at this stuff. Your input and help is greatly appreciated.

    Seller Says:

    Omega 145.022 74 ST

    Movement caliber 861

    Amazing original condition - fully serviced.

    Original bezzel insert. Watch runs perfectly.

    No box/papers.

    Movement number starts with 277xxxxx.

    Movement number says it was made in 1968.
     
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  2. Kingls

    Kingls Aug 14, 2019

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    Also seller says its a 1969. With the serial 145.022-74 ST. Is this correct? I used the fretellowatches diagram and the serial # falls in place with 1969. However the "-74" in the 145.022-74 throws me off. Please let me know what you guys think. Thank you.
     
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  3. gemini4

    gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed Aug 14, 2019

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    Watch unfortunately has some major issues and should be returned.
    Movement is circa 145.022-68
    Caseback says145.022-74

    Looks like a put together

    Sorry
     
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  4. CJpickup57

    CJpickup57 Aug 14, 2019

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    Not original bracelet either. I only mention this because if seller’s claim of “amazing original condition” included the bracelet.

    There’s a real mix of major things going on as Gemini says that raise flags.
     
  5. boogedyboo

    boogedyboo Aug 14, 2019

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  6. The Father

    The Father Aug 14, 2019

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    How about the sales price
    Original ‘69 would be about $7G’s
    Mixed part watch, how much ? $3000 or less.....
     
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  7. ndgal

    ndgal Aug 14, 2019

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    Movement most likely swapped out with a Soccer Timer 861. Many of them in the 277XXXXX serial range.
    Might have been a cheaper option than to service the watch at some point so they just opted for a movement swap. Other than that, the rest of the parts are correct/original to a 145.022-74 head with a later 1171/663 bracelet.
     
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  8. gbesq

    gbesq Aug 15, 2019

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    What exactly is a “soccer timer 861?” Haven’t heard that term before. Is it a movement that is original to the Speedy Pro, but somehow different than the “traditional” 861? Details, years manufactured, etc.? Just curious.
     
  9. CJpickup57

    CJpickup57 Aug 15, 2019

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    Omega Seamaster 145.016 w/ soccer timer dial.
     
  10. Kingls

    Kingls Aug 15, 2019

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    Thank you guys for your input, and as sad as it is I have to return the watch. I appreciate the help. Now I need to go back on the hunt.
     
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  11. Walrus

    Walrus Aug 15, 2019

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    Too bad it looks very nice upon quick investigation
     
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  12. Walviskroket

    Walviskroket Aug 18, 2019

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    Get one on the forum, not ebay.
     
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  13. rob#1

    rob#1 Aug 18, 2019

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    Here’s a ‘soccer’ timer (or football timer where I come from :cautious:) - a Seamaster with an 861 movement that you can use to time your nippers’ games...

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  14. Spacefruit

    Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 18, 2019

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  15. DonovanMartin

    DonovanMartin Aug 18, 2019

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    I have a speedy that is about 400 numbers before this one if I’m reading the last 4 correct. My extract dates it to July 4, 1969. Mine came with a service dial.
     
  16. Socks

    Socks Sep 11, 2019

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  17. Kingls

    Kingls Sep 11, 2019

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    I did send it back so its possible but its not the same seller.
     
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  18. bimmernerd

    bimmernerd Sep 11, 2019

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    +1!
     
  19. Gprotein

    Gprotein Sep 12, 2019

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    forum +1, Ebay -1.
     
  20. 64Wing

    64Wing Sep 12, 2019

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    This!