Omegas on watchshopping.com

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I’ve bought from grey market dealers before and had a good experience. Watchshopping.com has good prices on Omegas and I bought and paid for a watch in late May. The website said to give 8-10 business days for them to obtain and inspect the watch then 2-3 days for shipping. I never heard boo from them after they took my 5k so I reached out multiple times via phone and email. No reply.

I should have done a bit more research first. On Trustpilot the reviews for the site were traditionally very mixed. Quite a few happy buyers and an occasional very bad review. But since Feb of 2023 it’s just a slew of unanimously horrible reviews. Same story as mine - they take your money and you never get your watch and they won’t respond to you via email or phone and web chat is dead. You just get ghosted.

Anyway I suspect they went out of business. Not sure how or why they are still processing orders and taking money. I called Amex and they suspended the charge for me and launched a dispute. They expect resolution in 10-14 days. But the charge has been suspended and I very much doubt I’ll have to pay as Amex is very good with this.

so this is just a PSA as there are still some very tempting Omega prices on this site, and they are updating the site daily and taking orders. But …. Caveat emptor
 
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I'm sorry not just for the bad experience but because you didn't get your new Omega. It's good to know that you would not lost your money. In the past I bought for AuthenticWatches without any problems.

Good luck on your next purchase.
 
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I feel very poor when I read threads like this. How much saving is worth it for any of you to gamble with several thousand of your hard earned after tax income?

For me anything over $1,000 is way too much. I would rather walk into an OB or AD, perhaps pay 10-20% more and get my watch that's certified fresh and ticking. Not to mention the after sales service in case of issues (and they do happen for brand new watches).

And that's why I feel poor. Threads pop up all the time with people sending wires of several thousand to joe blow companeis or instagram user to save a grand. Perhaps I don't fancy living on the edge as much.

Thanks for the headsup but smart ones here either do the right thing or buy from forum sponsors, very well established members only.
 
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I feel very poor when I read threads like this. How much saving is worth it for any of you to gamble with several thousand of your hard earned after tax income?

For me anything over $1,000 is way too much. I would rather walk into an OB or AD, perhaps pay 10-20% more and get my watch that's certified fresh and ticking. Not to mention the after sales service in case of issues (and they do happen for brand new watches).

And that's why I feel poor. Threads pop up all the time with people sending wires of several thousand to joe blow companeis or instagram user to save a grand. Perhaps I don't fancy living on the edge as much.

Thanks for the headsup but smart ones here either do the right thing or buy from forum sponsors, very well established members only.

In general I agree with you, although if the savings is substantial I will buy from a grey market dealer, and I’ve had very good experiences in the past going this route.

For this particular purchase, it was a discontinued Aqua Terra that I once owned and always regretted selling. I still want it, but the only options at this point are used or grey.
 
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In general I agree with you, although if the savings is substantial I will buy from a grey market dealer, and I’ve had very good experiences in the past going this route.

For this particular purchase, it was a discontinued Aqua Terra that I once owned and always regretted selling. I still want it, but the only options at this point are used or grey.

Still best to see if a trusted seller has it or if one can get a piece for you. I understand that it is doesn't work everytime and sometimes the lust is too strong to resist.
 
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I would rather walk into an OB or AD, perhaps pay 10-20% more and get my watch that's certified fresh and ticking. Not to mention the after sales service in case of issues (and they do happen for brand new watches).

This is the never-ending internal debate. Do you pay a premium—that is, full retail—for peace of mind, or do you pay fair market value and assume some risk?

I think all the variables matter. I have a (very) short list of secondhand or gray dealers that I’ll consider buying from, after many many hours of combing through forum reviews, BBB reviews, and various other sites, as well as (sometimes) actually speaking to them on the phone. I do my homework. Those are the only places I’d ever wire money to. Have never had any issues with any of them that didn’t get immediately resolved to my satisfaction. The OP’s site—not on the list. I’ll rarely sell on eBay or Chrono24; will never use either of those sites to make a purchase. I’ll do smaller person-to-person transactions here and on the Rolex Forum, but am always prepared to bail if someone is weird, flaky, or takes longer to respond than I prefer. Gotta have a code to live by!

My contention is that, whenever possible, you want to buy Omega gray or preowned. (Only talking modern/new Omegas, obviously.)

It’s funny: a lot of people rage against Rolex for their scarcity marketing/waitlist nonsense. Fair enough, but I’d be just as peeved with Omega for selling their watches so high above their fair market value, at least for most of the models. (Not saying I plan to organize a protest or internet shaming campaign; just saying I personally won’t pay that much if I can avoid it—doubt Omega cares.) You walk out of the store and the watch drops a couple grand. I’d always rather let someone else take the hit. Maybe you only get four years of warranty instead of five; maybe there’s a hairline scratch on the clasp. I, for one, don’t care. Or I don’t $3,000 care.

So, it’s just about minimizing the risk. So far I’ve never bought a fake, gotten burned, or had an issue that left me feeling bad.

…with the acknowledgment that everything I just said is pretty obvious.
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Sorry this happened to you, OP, but glad that Amex is going to bat for you. The only grey market dealer that I’ve ever purchased from is Jomashop and everything went smoothly. The discounts off retail from the grey marketers. especially when your local OB won’t budge, are hard to pass up.
 
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This is the never-ending internal debate. Do you pay a premium—that is, full retail—for peace of mind, or do you pay fair market value and assume some risk?

I think all the variables matter. I have a (very) short list of secondhand or gray dealers that I’ll consider buying from, after many many hours of combing through forum reviews, BBB reviews, and various other sites, as well as (sometimes) actually speaking to them on the phone. I do my homework. Those are the only places I’d ever wire money to. Have never had any issues with any of them that didn’t get immediately resolved to my satisfaction. The OP’s site—not on the list. I’ll rarely sell on eBay or Chrono24; will never use either of those sites to make a purchase. I’ll do smaller person-to-person transactions here and on the Rolex Forum, but am always prepared to bail if someone is weird, flaky, or takes longer to respond than I prefer. Gotta have a code to live by!

My contention is that, whenever possible, you want to buy Omega gray or preowned. (Only talking modern/new Omegas, obviously.)

It’s funny: a lot of people rage against Rolex for their scarcity marketing/waitlist nonsense. Fair enough, but I’d be just as peeved with Omega for selling their watches so high above their fair market value, at least for most of the models. (Not saying I plan to organize a protest or internet shaming campaign; just saying I personally won’t pay that much if I can avoid it—doubt Omega cares.) You walk out of the store and the watch drops a couple grand. I’d always rather let someone else take the hit. Maybe you only get four years of warranty instead of five; maybe there’s a hairline scratch on the clasp. I, for one, don’t care. Or I don’t $3,000 care.

So, it’s just about minimizing the risk. So far I’ve never bought a fake, gotten burned, or had an issue that left me feeling bad.

…with the acknowledgment that everything I just said is pretty obvious.

Great post. I have a very solid relationship with my AD. IMO the discounts offered by reputable grey market dealers aren’t as large as they used to be. My AD will usually come pretty close and I will gladly pay 500 to 1000 more to my AD for the piece of mind.

My mistake on this deal was not doing more recent research on the watchshopping.com site. Something definitely happened in the last two months or so because their reviews on trust pilot went from pretty ok overall to total crap. In the last 2 months every review has been “this site scammed me”. My mistake… but yah, Amex is very good in these situations.
 
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One reason I have only ever dealt with used watch dealers who actually have the watch in stock before I purchase. Too many of these online gray market dealers do exactly what the OP ran into - take your “order” then try to source a watch. Many times it works out, but often it doesn’t.

Be leery when the seller states something like “usually available in 7-10 days”. Only use ones that say “in stock and ready to ship” or something like that.

And as always, go on reputation first, not the cheap price.
 
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Absolutely, re: having in stock. “Contact about availability” or “usually available in…” etc, etc are all nonstarters. Has to be actual in-hand photos of the actual watch actually in stock. The dealers I’m willing to work with only operate that way. Most of the time they ship FedEx next day and the watch is on my wrist less than 24 hours after payment—that’s the way it should go.

Never had stock issues with DavidSW, OCwatch, Nashville, EuropeanWatchCo, Tropical Watch, HQMilton, Crown&Caliber/Hodinkee or SwissWatchExpo (though they have a blemish or two in their record). Capetown Diamond worked out fine but their website is horrendous and they did pull some sh!t where they sent me a different watch (identical reference) to the one I ordered—and it had issues and had to get returned multiple times—but they made it right in the end. (I probably wouldn’t work with them again myself but wouldn’t advise others not to, necessarily; it felt more like disorganization than dishonesty.)
 
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Due diligence and buy the seller- here, an OB, or seller you can research and verify. I've had great luck with independent sellers- but I trust my own detective work. The OP here acknowledges they could have done more.

So it goes.
-Vonnegut

I feel very poor when I read threads like this. How much saving is worth it for any of you to gamble with several thousand of your hard earned after tax income?

For me anything over $1,000 is way too much. I would rather walk into an OB or AD, perhaps pay 10-20% more and get my watch that's certified fresh and ticking. Not to mention the after sales service in case of issues (and they do happen for brand new watches).

And that's why I feel poor. Threads pop up all the time with people sending wires of several thousand to joe blow companeis or instagram user to save a grand. Perhaps I don't fancy living on the edge as much.

Thanks for the headsup but smart ones here either do the right thing or buy from forum sponsors, very well established members only.
 
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I’ve bought from grey market dealers before and had a good experience. Watchshopping.com has good prices on Omegas and I bought and paid for a watch in late May. The website said to give 8-10 business days for them to obtain and inspect the watch then 2-3 days for shipping. I never heard boo from them after they took my 5k so I reached out multiple times via phone and email. No reply.

I should have done a bit more research first. On Trustpilot the reviews for the site were traditionally very mixed. Quite a few happy buyers and an occasional very bad review. But since Feb of 2023 it’s just a slew of unanimously horrible reviews. Same story as mine - they take your money and you never get your watch and they won’t respond to you via email or phone and web chat is dead. You just get ghosted.

Anyway I suspect they went out of business. Not sure how or why they are still processing orders and taking money. I called Amex and they suspended the charge for me and launched a dispute. They expect resolution in 10-14 days. But the charge has been suspended and I very much doubt I’ll have to pay as Amex is very good with this.

so this is just a PSA as there are still some very tempting Omega prices on this site, and they are updating the site daily and taking orders. But …. Caveat emptor
Appreciate the info! Sorry about the crap experience and not getting the watch. So true about Amex! Hope you find another watch soon.
 
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OP, I sympathize with you and hope that you get your money back soon. I was recently in a similar situation to you. Looking for a discontinued AT and came across what looked to be a great deal on Watchshopping.com. What got my alarm bells ringing was the lack of immediately available stock, the use of stock photos, and the variable feedback from customers. After reading your post, I'm so glad now that I didn't pull the trigger with them. I ended up getting my watch from a professional dealer via Chrono24. Yes, I know many people don't like using Chrono24 because the watches there tend to be priced at the higher end of the range. However, IMHO what you're paying for is peace of mind because they don't release funds to the vendor until 14 days after you get your watch, and you can always return the watch within that period if not satisfied and get your money back (minus import duty and postage).

Edit: incorrect wording fixed 😁
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That's a shame. I bought from watchshopping before and they always take forever but at least I always get the watch. Last time they took 3-4 weeks before it shipped. I suspect they source from Asia which explains the long wait.

I personally am a big fan of buying grey and second hand. I've had great experiences buying on Reddit watchexchange as well.
 
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Just as a follow up (not that anyone cares, ha), Amex did cancel this charge for me. So it didn’t cost me anything other than some stress and disappointment in not getting the watch I wanted.

Again, in my defense, this website was once very comparable to Watchmaxx and Jomashop - two sites I’ve bought from before - in its online and TrustPilot reviews. My mistake was not spending two minutes to pull up the latest TP reviews for the site, which went to crap in March.

The place went out of business but someone is still controlling the website, selling product, and taking money. Kind of astonishing to me that this can’t be shut down. They are even updating prices daily and advertising seasonal sales but it’s all a total fraud.
 
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Just as a follow up (not that anyone cares, ha), Amex did cancel this charge for me. So it didn’t cost me anything other than some stress and disappointment in not getting the watch I wanted.

Again, in my defense, this website was once very comparable to Watchmaxx and Jomashop - two sites I’ve bought from before - in its online and TrustPilot reviews. My mistake was not spending two minutes to pull up the latest TP reviews for the site, which went to crap in March.

The place went out of business but someone is still controlling the website, selling product, and taking money. Kind of astonishing to me that this can’t be shut down. They are even updating prices daily and advertising seasonal sales but it’s all a total fraud.
Glad Amex took care of you and sorry about not getting the watch. Appreciate the heads up to avoid this site!
 
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They went under at their physical address but their website is still up. Definitely shady.

I wouldn't buy from the.
 
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Oh my god dude! I just bought a Speedmaster from them in March, took 5 weeks to arrive, but it did arrive. Looking at the reviews it looks like I may have been one of the last people to actually get their order! I suspect this site runs off the model of they don't have it in stock, but when a sale is made, they hunt around for someone who will sell them one for less than they sell it for themselves because when I got the watch, the warranty card was stamped 5 days after purchase and by a random jeweler in Denmark if I recall. I almost filed a claim myself with my card because it took so long to arrive and they kept saying "It is coming from our vault in Italy" which I now know is bullshit based on the warranty card, or "It is on it's way to be inspected before going to you", but it doesn't take 3 weeks to inspect something.
 
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Don't know what's going on recently, but all of that sounds terrible. I used them two years ago to purchase a Nomos Tangente 38 (BNIB) for the lowest price I could find. Took around three weeks to get the watch as I was notified they source from availability contacts around the world. The Tangente came with AD papers from Italy.

Though it seems they aren't even worth considering now.