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  1. Speedimaster

    Speedimaster Oct 11, 2019

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    Hi Guys,
    What think you are about this beauty?
    Condition and Value?
    Seller ask $46K...

    Thanks for all
     
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  2. eugeneandresson

    eugeneandresson Oct 11, 2019

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    I think its a good condition 145.012 with a decimal bezel (no idea if vintage or not, I trust you to do your homework). The slightly dirty lume removes a bit of value to me, but lets ignore that. That would put it at about $10~10.5k for watch and bracelet.

    So now the question is : is an orange chronograph hand worth $36k to you? Because to me it is not. But thats just me.

    Edit : for $36k, I would rather have a collector condition 2998. As soon as another one popped up for sale ofcourse.
     
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  3. SpeedyPhill

    SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Oct 11, 2019

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    Looks great with a decimal bezel... who uses a Tachymètre anyway !
     
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  4. simonsays

    simonsays Oct 11, 2019

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    Bezel looks legit from what @JanV told me... But who uses a decimal bezel anyway?
     
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  5. Bille

    Bille Oct 11, 2019

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    I´m still learning about the old vintage Omegas. So what would your response be, if I say that the hands looks painted and also maybe relumed? Also the hands in the subdials looks painted. Maybe I´m wrong, and the hands are just in an incrediably good shape.
     
  6. Davidt

    Davidt Oct 11, 2019

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    I don’t see the value or appeal in the Ultramans but obviously others disagree.

    If you’re looking to dump 50k on it you must’ve done your homework. What do you think?
     
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  7. SwissZ

    SwissZ Oct 11, 2019

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    That dial certainly didn't come from an Ultraman
     
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  8. Speedimaster

    Speedimaster Oct 11, 2019

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    For me, the $46K is also high. For me it's a beautiful Speedy with an orange second hand?
     
  9. palatine

    palatine Oct 11, 2019

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    i'm not saying your wrong, i'm just asking.... what makes you say that?
     
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  10. Kapka

    Kapka Oct 11, 2019

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    For that kind of money I would need a report from some sort of independ laboratory. It should include an x-ray of that orange second hand where it clearly proofs one layer of laquer ( preferably orange :)) but also the age of it.

    Other than that it's a great looking Speedmaster..
     
  11. incabloc

    incabloc Oct 11, 2019

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    I like the bezel.....;)
     
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  12. harrymai86

    harrymai86 Oct 11, 2019

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    Just try to find a racing dial with that kind of money. Maybe you can find one OP
     
  13. Foo2rama

    Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Oct 11, 2019

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    Oh really? I’d love to know your reasoning.


    On another note, I’d love to know the extract date. NAAFI and Ultraman is highly unusual. Not wrong, just unexpected.
     
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  14. td69

    td69 Oct 11, 2019

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    There are a couple areas that will pause my interest and make me think twice. First the case back, the inner style (thin fonts) is a bit early for the 1968 production. I'd rather see "145012-67 SP" on the same line, not "SP" over the "145012-67". Second, the 1506 3/66 bracelet while more valuable than the 1039 2/68 isn't exactly period correct IMHO. This may sound too picky but when it comes to dropping that kinda money one must be sure of every detail. While the dial and plots are debatable, certainly there is a big plus on the vintage decimal bezel.
     
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  15. abrod520

    abrod520 Oct 11, 2019

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    It's a new, Summer 2019+ Extract - note the disclaimer above the details.
     
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  16. Speedimaster

    Speedimaster Oct 11, 2019

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    Correct, the archive excerpt is after the changeover, that is August 2019. What bothers me is that the papers are blank. At this price the papers should be original...
     
  17. eugeneandresson

    eugeneandresson Oct 11, 2019

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    They are period correct though. Date stamp on papers is 11/68, watch produced 6/68. So they could hypothetically be ‘the’ papers ...
     
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  18. ndgal

    ndgal Oct 11, 2019

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    That mid case is not right.

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    Here's what a correct 145.012-67 mid case profile should look like:
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  19. Speedimaster

    Speedimaster Oct 11, 2019

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    The case is correct, both variants can occur, this according to "Moonwatch only".
     
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  20. ndgal

    ndgal Oct 11, 2019

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    The mid case is not correct, and this section is the "Moonwatch Only" book is incorrect as well.
    The case they are showing in this picture is a 90's case. I was actually thinking about contacting the authors and bringing that up to their attention when I saw this a while back, but I haven't seen the new edition of the book that just came out, maybe they fixed it.
     
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