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·I had the impression that that was/is a quite a respectable website.
Omega speedmaster « two liner » does it actually exist ?!?
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simonsays
·Ok it seems I maybe a little out there, based on incorrect information made and logged a while ago. But it proves how odd Omega were. A few dusty 105.003 hanging around the factory until 1969? WTF??? Who let those out the door?
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chronoboy64
·are you ok ?
what kind of drugs do you consume ?
relax and listen to the experts like @Spacefruit and others
have a great holiday season 👍
what kind of drugs do you consume ?
relax and listen to the experts like @Spacefruit and others
have a great holiday season 👍
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simonsays
·are you ok ?
what kind of drugs do you consume ?
relax and listen to the experts like @Spacefruit and others
have a great holiday season 👍
I am fine and may have my slightly dated knowledge based on information from experts and enthusiasts like Chuck Maddox. But I prefer to be out of date and an enthusiast, rather than a sycophant.
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simonsays
·I saw this advert with a straight lug case and professional dial.
Although I don’t like to use advertising copy to verify watches it adds some merit to the possibility of dials crossing over between the models.
Although I don’t like to use advertising copy to verify watches it adds some merit to the possibility of dials crossing over between the models.
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mr_yossarian
·Although I don’t like to use advertising copy to verify watches
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simonsays
·For good reasons. You can't tell if the watch wasn't put together in the Layout or if it was a dummy. I've seen other speedies in old Ads that are off.
Very true. But I think it highlights the attitudes of the time. Details were not as important and QC not as stringent. Different dial or hands on a few watches, well whose going to notice? Only some dickheads in 50 years time. Who knew?
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mr_yossarian
·Very true. But I think it highlights the attitudes of the time. Details were not as important and QC not as stringent. Different dial or hands on a few watches, well whose going to notice? Only some dickheads in 50 years time. Who knew?
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simonsays
·And a ‘two liner’ 105.012
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·Nice finds, but neither of those ads will convince me a Pro case ever came with a non pro dial and vice versa
That’s your prerogative and I would also be very sceptical of the originality of watches configured like this. But...I don’t think it is appropriate to designate them Franken watches from a couple of pictures. More investigation and effort should be put in, and judged on a watch by watch basis.
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oddboy
·We all have our criteria. If you feel comfortable accepting these uncommon configurations, that's great.
For me, I would only buy one of these at a hefty discount for parts - and I've looked at several but can't convince myself that they're original.
For me, I would only buy one of these at a hefty discount for parts - and I've looked at several but can't convince myself that they're original.
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simonsays
·We all have our criteria. If you feel comfortable accepting these uncommon configurations, that's great.
For me, I would only buy one of these at a hefty discount for parts - and I've looked at several but can't convince myself that they're original.
I rejected Speedmaster’s with both Soleil dials and one with a concentric numbered sub-dial for that exact reason. Uncommon and unconfirmed, I should have been braver!
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderI rejected Speedmaster’s with both Soleil dials and one with a concentric numbered sub-dial for that exact reason. Uncommon and unconfirmed, I should have been braver!
You rejected unusual dials, not unusual configurations
But I feel your pain.
I rejected a racing dial 15 years ago simply because the casback had been brushed. (It was priced at double a 145.022)
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eugeneandresson
·This looks like a photo to me (in the photo, that is) ...
However, I can swear there is a professional in there somewhere...
However, I can swear there is a professional in there somewhere...
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wsfarrell
·Those old ads don't feature actual watches - they're artists' renderings based on descriptions given to them. It's long been known that vintage ads aren't of much use for determining how watches came.
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simonsays
·This looks like a photo to me (in the photo, that is) ...
However, I can swear there is a professional in there somewhere...
Ha, censored. Yes I think they are all photos not renderings, but obviously tampering is common. At the same time rare dials and configurations are often included. The single line or Seamaster only Ploprof is in a few ads and turns out to be a real life pre production dial.
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Davidt
·That’s your prerogative and I would also be very sceptical of the originality of watches configured like this. But...I don’t think it is appropriate to designate them Franken watches from a couple of pictures. More investigation and effort should be put in, and judged on a watch by watch basis.
The point is, a huge amount of investigation and effort has already been put in for MWO and no one has found any evidence that a non Pro dial was found in a Pro case.
As I said previously, I don't think the 'parts bin' argument can be used here as the Pro dial and asymmetric case go hand in hand together so I can't imagine Omega would have been lax with this.
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