Omega Speedmaster Racing 3570.40 Japanese LE (2004) - Serial Number Database & Research

Good morning, this is my first post on this forum. Usually just stop by to read, but joined a little while ago.

I'm trying to figure out what would be a "probable" serial numbers range for the Speedmaster ref. 3570.40 - the limited edition for the Japanese market.

I understand it was released in 2004 with a production run of 2004 items. In browsing the net, I've come across a pretty consistent series with only two odd ones, and I'd be interested to hear from those of you who have one (or have seen serials confirmed by the plastic tag+guarantee card)

Here are the ones I've found so far:

77 129 ***
77 130 (two watches)
77 131 6**

I've also come across two earlier serials, which would be incompatible with the 2004 pieces produced (assuming the highest serials is correct)
77 070 ***
77 128 ***

Any further info would be welcome
Cheers

Hi,
mine is 77128830 and originally bought in Japan in 2004 according to the guarantee card.

Congrats for the watch and thanks for sharing you ref.. May I ask if yours has also the serial tag (the whitish round one that originally comes with the watch and includes the model # and calibre)?

This would reverse the "burden of proof" onto the higher serials (77 131 ***) - if there really are only 2004 items out there

.. and your implicit assumption that they have consecutive numbers is correct😉

you're absolutely right 😀, and I've just heard an opinion to the contrary, which sounds entirely plausible, now that I think of it.

Which brings us back to the good old "vintage" method of gathering existing serials to establish some sort of ex-post acceptable range for this model.

I guess extracts from the Omega archive specifying case # and dial configuration would then be needed for specific items without original tags & guarantee

You can also email Omega customer service and they can verify if your SN corresponds with the right watch. My first post on OF shared my exchange regarding this issue: https://omegaforums.net/threads/careful-of-this-3570-40-speedmaster.4115/#post-56042

There's several threads on these. I quite like them, but decided I like the Mark II better personally.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/careful-of-this-3570-40-speedmaster.4115/

...though I wouldn't mind one of the 145.012 racing dials, especially the red one!

https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedmaster-145022-69-prototype-racing-dial.26239/

Edit: d'oh! Andy beat me to it!

Thanks to both for adding to the series.

@oddboy, the upcoming Christie's Speedy auction will readily solve the problem 😀 ... and I agree Alfredo's has unbelievably beautiful pieces ...

Mine is 77129 as well and I checked with Omega. All good

Here's mine

welcome to the forum

Thank you Gentlemen - for the welcome too, and congrats for your Japanese

So I dare say that admitting Omega did not assemble cases with a continuous batch of serials, those should anyhow gravitate (we're talking of a Moon watch, after all 😀) around 77 129/130 ...

Keep going ... any "odds" out there?

Hi all,

I'm pretty new to Omega watches and this is my first post and totally motivated by having recently fallen down the internet rabbit hole on the subject of the 3570.40, so please be gentle. And while this thread hasn't been active for a few years, it's still the most focused, concentrated collection of information I've been able to find about S/N ranges for the reference.

Anyway, I'm curious about the reasoning for the commonly accepted S/N range? Having done a bit of informal research I do agree that when I see a listing of an example that's plausibly authentic (with box, stamped warranty card, etc), then the S/N tends to be somewhere in the 77128 to 77131 range. Of course I've also seen examples just outside the range and I have also seen charts that purport to list the S/Ns for 2004 Speedmasters starting at 771xxxxx. Actually the chart I'm thinking of stopped at 2003 but stated that the end of 2003 S/Ns was 77098xxx.

So my question is, is it plausible that an original 3570.40 could have an S/N as low as 7708xxxx or 7709xxxx? And is it possible that range has become a self fulfilling prophecy such that legit 3570.40s that fall outside that rage have been eschewed by the community because it's challenging to get concrete data, especially now that the certifired extract service has been suspended?

Also, if you look up 3570.50 references and try to match their S/N to their purported year of manufacture then the S/Ns seem to go all over the place. For example I recall once finding a 3570.50 purported to be a 2003 model that had an S/N somewhere around 77140 or 77150 or something well after the range for the 3570.40 whcih should only be 2004 models. Of course the listing may have gotten the year of manufacture wrong but I wouldn't suaully pay attention uless they claimed they had original papers thus they should have been getting the year straight from the warranty card.

And TBH I don't envision the Omega watchmakers grabbing cases and other components from a perfecly sequenced inventory of parts so I'm wondering what the margin or variance might be. Unless the S/Ns are applied after a watch has been fully assembled and ready to ship?

All thoughts and/or corrections to my understanding/assumptions are welcome. Or if Im missing a more contemporary thread on the subject, please do share.

FWIW, I'm totally drawn in by the racing dials and recently acquried a 145.014 Mark II racing dial, which I'm obsessed with.

Thanks all.

Agreed. Yet I see discussions about the S/N range of late 7712x to early 7713x being a sort of sweet spot for original 3570.40s. I assume that implies that the peak manufacturing period for the LE occurred at this range but presumably as they ramped up or down in the watchmaking process the earlier or later builds would fall outside that range.

But some things are better left to mystery and intrigue.

Nice. A racing watch on a rally strap always works 😀.