Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 50th Anniversary in Steel - Expectations

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I do wonder what this statement is based on, since the watch isn't even released yet...

Well comon: Co-ax, Silicium, free-sprung, anti-magnetism. It is without risk easily believable. The world is round - not flat... 馃槈
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Just got word from Omega Boutique in Beverly Hills - the bracelet will be available, maybe by EOY.
 
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Eh, I have some understanding of how the business world works. I also understand that some 'improvements' are also done to cut/ shave costs, and not to make something actually better (contrary to what the marketing departments may say). For example, you might have a tough time getting a consensus from watchmakers about the 861 being an improvement over the 321 (some aspects better, some worse).

In a tech-driven world, things like the crApple watches are what sell. In a day that has 86,400 seconds, the difference between 86,402 and 86,410 does not correspond with a substantial improvement, or register as far better to some people. A quartz watch provides better accuracy, and digital will trump quartz -- especially the digital watches that reference the gov't clocks. When it comes to mechanical movements, changing the material of a spring, etc. is not really a leap in technology. And the 'benefits' of co-ax are debated.

I think you did not get what Evitzee said! 馃槜
 
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Hadn't chimed in until now as I wanted to "digest" this release first. Of course, I am also aware that I should probably (and will) hold off any final judgment on yes / no until I can actually see the "Buzz' Moon" IRL.

Having said that, I have been really underwhelmed so far. The biggest disappointment BY FAR is the running second sub dial pic!!! 馃

The foot print of Aldrin would have been a much better fit for that size (and also based on achievable resolution of the engraving), so that the photo of Buzz coming down the ladder could have been put on the case back. There, they would have had so many more chances of doing something that can be even seen and appreciated instead.

Otherwise, IF they really wanted to keep the footprint on the case back (which I love BTW), then they should have come up with something else for the dial. :whipped:

Also, as much as I knew that it was a lloooooonnnnnngggggggggg shot, I was certainly hoping that Omega and NASA could have worked something special to include some real MoonDust on the case back..... 馃

Anyhow, as stated above, I will most likely wait until I can see this IRL, but still quite disappointed for now. 馃檨
 
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The choice have been taken today!
I want to be true to the 芦original禄 moonwatch, and skip the 50th even as no. 1 on the list in Norway.

Went to my Omega AD today and bought a Speedmaster Pro hesalite. Took off the original bracelet right away and added a BOB Handgemacht Marino Calf padded strap for Omega deployant. Perfect combo!
The rest of my money for buying the 50th will stay in my pocket for another day.

I鈥檓 happy to finally have made the right choice!


But why put that on this 50th Anniv thread?
 
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Hadn't chimed in until now as I wanted to "digest" this release first. Of course, I am also aware that I should probably (and will) hold off any final judgment on yes / no until I can actually see the "Buzz' Moon" IRL.

Having said that, I have been really underwhelmed so far. The biggest disappointment BY FAR is the running second sub dial pic!!! 馃

The foot print of Aldrin would have been a much better fit for that size (and also based on achievable resolution of the engraving), so that the photo of Buzz coming down the ladder could have been put on the case back. There, they would have had so many more chances of doing something that can be even seen and appreciated instead.

Otherwise, IF they really wanted to keep the footprint on the case back (which I love BTW), then they should have come up with something else for the dial. :whipped:

Also, as much as I knew that it was a lloooooonnnnnngggggggggg shot, I was certainly hoping that Omega and NASA could have worked something special to include some real MoonDust on the case back..... 馃

Anyhow, as stated above, I will most likely wait until I can see this IRL, but still quite disappointed for now. 馃檨

I think the reason they didnt use the footprint is because a footprint is small anyway then sticking it in that tiny window it would have just looked like a t*rd
 
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I mostly accept both sides of the arguments and try to keep an open mind to all possibilities.
As someone who appreciates genuine advancements, the whole tech package of the new 3861 Co-axial is compelling.
But it's also conceivable that sourcing independent servicing will become more problematic and by extension more expensive.
I only have one early Co-axial which has just returned from an independent service and the result was more than I hoped for. The angst around obtaining a reasonably priced service for the watch without any potential downside was somewhat dispropotional to servicing other brands of watches and I'm not in the mood at this stage of my life to double down on that aspect of the ownership experience.
I love the 50th anniversary watch a lot with 3 things that are turning me off. 1 is the movement, 2 is the Saphire crystal and the third aspect of the watch is the short pushers. I am sitting out on the sidelines.

I will happily move forward with my basic Hesalite Speedy Pro on the Silver Snoopy strap, completely secure in the knowledge that it's another watch that a competent independent watchmaker can service in a routine manner.
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I think the reason they didnt use the footprint is because a footprint is small anyway then sticking it in that tiny window it would have just looked like a t*rd

Agreed.
Also it would've been difficult to get enough definition with the other alternative picture put forward in this thread to make any visual impact.
Whilst it wouldn't have looked like a blob of dung, the required clarity of the image would've been absent. Besides it would've had to been in colour with the focus on Buzz. It is afterall a picture of Buzz just standing on the moon.
The image shown on the watch at least tells a bit of a story whilst getting the message across.
 
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Agreed.
Also it would've been difficult to get enough definition with the other alternative picture put forward in this thread to make any visual impact.
Whilst it wouldn't have looked like a blob of dung, the required clarity of the image would've been absent. Besides it would've had to been in colour with the focus on Buzz. It is afterall a picture of Buzz just standing on the moon.
The image shown on the watch at least tells a bit of a story whilst getting the message across.

Kinda get this guys... fine to keep the footprint on case back.... but may be a lunar module on the sundial... or even that gold astronaut.

Something else people, something ELSE!! 馃槖
 
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Agreed.
Also it would've been difficult to get enough definition with the other alternative picture put forward in this thread to make any visual impact.
Whilst it wouldn't have looked like a blob of dung, the required clarity of the image would've been absent. Besides it would've had to been in colour with the focus on Buzz. It is afterall a picture of Buzz just standing on the moon.
The image shown on the watch at least tells a bit of a story whilst getting the message across.

Agree, end of the day people moaning about his ass etc..this is how astronauts descend a ladder from a module in zero gravity! What do you want lol
 
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Also, as much as I knew that it was a lloooooonnnnnngggggggggg shot, I was certainly hoping that Omega and NASA could have worked something special to include some real MoonDust on the case back.....
Agree with all the rest points. But moon rocks collected by the Apollo astronauts are US government's property. They are not for sale or commercial usage.
 
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Agree with all the rest points. But moon rocks collected by the Apollo astronauts are US government's property. They are not for sale or commercial usage.

You mean Area 51 property 馃槜
 
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You mean Area 51 property 馃槜
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rock#Luna_mission_sample_returns

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"The main repository for the Apollo Moon rocks is the Lunar Sample Laboratory Facility at the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas. For safe keeping, there is also a smaller collection stored at White Sands Test Facility in Las Cruces, New Mexico. Most of the rocks are stored in nitrogen to keep them free of moisture. They are handled only indirectly, using special tools.

Moon rocks collected during the course of lunar exploration are currently considered priceless. In 2002, a safe was stolen from the Lunar Sample Building that contained minute samples of lunar and Martian material. The samples were recovered, and NASA estimated their value during the ensuing court case at about $1 million for 10 oz. (285 g) of material.

Naturally transported Moon rocks in the form of lunar meteorites are sold and traded among private collectors."


Based on this estimate in 2002, 3g of lunar sample will be worth more than this watch. And that's if 1) they sell it to Omega and 2) Omega decided not to make any profit on it.
 
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Agree with all the rest points. But moon rocks collected by the Apollo astronauts are US government's property. They are not for sale or commercial usage.
I know, I know! It was wishful thinking.... but even ppm levels of moon dust would have made this an (inter)stellar piece!!!!!! 馃槈
Oh well....
 
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I鈥檓 sort of broke right now...but if Omega put me on the seconds sub-register [instead of Buzz], I think I could somehow scrape up some coin and get the 50th. 馃憤

 
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Will really need to see it in real life before making final decisions. All the points are valid, and I think the most intelligent one is about all the different LEs made so far, it's quite difficult for Omega to release a very special edition for the 50th...

One thing they could have done is get some flown materials from recent space missions to integrate that into the watch. For example beta cloth for the second bracelet instead of cork....
 
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I鈥檓 sort of broke right now...but if Omega put me on the seconds sub-register [instead of Buzz], I think I could somehow scrape up some coin and get the 50th. 馃憤

After the initial laugh, I'm like WOW... this is deep... This is some good example of "Self-reference" and "Fractal"... Man you are a genius!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal
 
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I鈥檓 sort of broke right now...but if Omega put me on the seconds sub-register [instead of Buzz], I think I could somehow scrape up some coin and get the 50th. 馃憤

You just need to pile up some garden waste, plastic bags, bottles etc under the ladder and it will be spot on!
 
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Agree with all the rest points. But moon rocks collected by the Apollo astronauts are US government's property. They are not for sale or commercial usage.
In fact, it happened at least once: Romain Jerome Moon Dust DNA, with real Moon dust from a rock taken back to Earth by Apollo 11.
https://newatlas.com/romain-jeromes-moon-dust-dna-watch-collection-with-real-moon-dust/10887/
After some quick researches, it was sold between $15k an $400k, depending of the amount on moon dust melted in the dial
 
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I鈥檓 sort of broke right now...but if Omega put me on the seconds sub-register [instead of Buzz], I think I could somehow scrape up some coin and get the 50th. 馃憤


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