Omega Speedmaster 145.012-67 or 145.022-68 on an auction yesterday!!

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Greetings Forum Friends!
It is Friday today, and soon time for Afterwork for us Europeans maybe?

But before that, I would once again lika to share an auction that I followed yesterday!
Yepp.... WTF....!!??
Doesn't the Swede give up...

Anyway;
The watch had been up for a while, and a few of you have obviously looked at the auction?
First impression is of course - what had happened to the watch?

But reading the description, there was not much information.
No reference or movement pictures.
And the estimate was ridiculously low (1425 - 2140 € / 1520 - 2295 $ inc the premium),
anybody can google up a decent value!

The auction house added some more info after some time, a one owner, and bought new in 1969.
So I had to start looking at the pictures, and trying to find out more?

The easy part….The crystal is cracked/destroyed, no top pusher, and the crown does not belong to the watch.


The lume plots looked amazing, and the dial looked very promising.
Applied metal Omega logo.
Chronohand had a spear end.
The lume on the hour and minute hands had poured over/bubbled out, maybe condensation?
Wide spaced T:s.

The bezel looked very good, with scratches/marks that would fit the rest of the watch.

The case looked untouched, but sadly with a few serious marks/damages,
the lines where still sharp and very appealing.
The caseback has nice edges, but scratched and also marks after a failed opening.

The pushers did not look lite the ”short and fat” ones, and TBO, I really had a hard time figuring these out.
But I decided it was either a 145.012 or a 145.022.

And the watch was DIRTY!!!

And I liked the watch, so I asked for more pictures and info.
They couldn't open the watch (not the right tool),
and the only additional info I got was that it had never been serviced.
I zoomed in on a couple of the new pictures, and I could se the Omega logo on the crystal which would fit these older references.


So with this in mind, I decided that I would like to bid on the watch.
I checked in on auctionday, and the pre-biding was already up to 6700 € / 7150 $ inc premium

This made me a bit concerned, since there was a lot to do with the watch to make it decent again.
And since I couldnt really assess the dial, I didnt want to take a chance over my budget....

And when the hammer went down, the price landed at 7000 € / 7445 $ inc the premium!

I was sooo close/tempted to bid on this one (over the winning bid),
but I do think that the winner knew what he was biding on,
he might have seen the watch in person, and could assess the dial.
And possilby continued biding..
So congrats to the Winner!!

I also hope that this watch was landed by a Forum member,
so we could see the watch and follow the progress of turning the watch back to a beautiful timepiece!

Please correct me if I have assessed the pushers incorrectly, these were troublesome for me…
And I do have 66, 67 and 68 Speedys to compare with…


Enjoy and have a looooovely weekend!






 
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That’s going to clean up pretty well, I think. 👍
 
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I live just down the road from the auction house, but I knew this would fly so didn’t even bother to take a look.
I reckon it’ll be very attractive.
 
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Hans you’re so predictable!!

I almost started a thread on this yesterday evening then thought to myself “no need, I’ll just wait for Hans to do the honours”! 😉

I thought this watch was great. I’d asked them for additional pics before they went up on the site and I put my bid in early yesterday as I knew I’d be busy at work. Alas I was a couple hundred short.

I bid as though it was a 145.022-68 but it could have easily been a 145.012-67/68.

Ultimately I thought the dial, bezel and backstory were wonderful, the case less so and the movement a risk so I’m happy with where I decided to max out. I would love to see a fellow member pop up with this one though and prove to us all that it was a great buy.
 
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That case is really beat to shit, which looks odd against what looks to be a great-condition bezel.
 
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I live just down the road from the auction house, but I knew this would fly so didn’t even bother to take a look.
I reckon it’ll be very attractive.
Ash....why didn't I think about you....🙁
Totalt forgot that it was in your Hoods!

Darn...🤔
 
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Hans you’re so predictable!!

I almost started a thread on this yesterday evening then thought to myself “no need, I’ll just wait for Hans to do the honours”! 😉

I thought this watch was great. I’d asked them for additional pics before they went up on the site and I put my bid in early yesterday as I knew I’d be busy at work. Alas I was a couple hundred short.

I bid as though it was a 145.022-68 but it could have easily been a 145.012-67/68.

Ultimately I thought the dial, bezel and backstory were wonderful, the case less so and the movement a risk so I’m happy with where I decided to max out. I would love to see a fellow member pop up with this one though and prove to us all that it was a great buy.
Hehehehe...
I can't follow every auction...but this one was to good to miss!

And they waited some time before the hammer fell, and I was soooo close to press bid!!
That dial could be a killer!

I really hope that a Forum member won this one, I am so curious about the watch.

Cheers David!
 
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That case is really beat to shit, which looks odd against what looks to be a great-condition bezel.
When I valued the watch, I also used Mr Roberts/ @Spacefruit charming way to set the value!
And I really liked the watch!
And with a cool story, it is now named the Antarctic Speedy!!


 
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Did you notice the sugary edges to the subdials?
 
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Did you notice the sugary edges to the subdials?
Could it be a sign of a brownish dial?

Need to step up to Speedmaster102!!
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Could it be a sign of a brownish dial?

Need to step up to Speedmaster102!!
😀

I doubt its a brown dial. Certainly, I would not gamble the price myself on that level.

The dial is a real gamble - the markers could be quite nice, they look a good colour and for the most part well covered. What worried me about the dial, is the surface. This concern is sparked by the white lines around the subdial edge.




So my worry is the dial surface is "dry".

The other gamble of course is the reference.

Best case scenario is that the ref is 145.012 and that the dial is good. I think the bezel will clean up nicely, and so if the wind is behind it and luck goes the right way, then price is ok.

It is also possible the watch looks much better in real life, in which case it is a good buy.

But the buyer is braver than me.
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From the reflections in the first pic, and the case back pic it looks like they are using a halo light. The white on the sundial edges could be reflection from that light?
 
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I doubt its a brown dial. Certainly, I would not gamble the price myself on that level.

The dial is a real gamble - the markers could be quite nice, they look a good colour and for the most part well covered. What worried me about the dial, is the surface. This concern is sparked by the white lines around the subdial edge.




So my worry is the dial surface is "dry".

The other gamble of course is the reference.

Best case scenario is that the ref is 145.012 and that the dial is good. I think the bezel will clean up nicely, and so if the wind is behind it and luck goes the right way, then price is ok.

It is also possible the watch looks much better in real life, in which case it is a good buy.

But the buyer is braver than me.

I do hope that the brave buyer presents himself and the watch here!??

He did the biding on-line, so maybe not a local guy??
 
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From the reflections in the first pic, and the case back pic it looks like they are using a halo light. The white on the sundial edges could be reflection from that light?
Lights and crapy pictures are a hell sometimes...🙁
 
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I was not brave buyer this came to me in trade with OF member/ friend. Service included new crystal ( orig cracked) replaced hour hammer and replaced missing pusher (current part is exactly same as orig). Quite pleased with it.
 
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I was not brave buyer this came to me in trade with OF member/ friend. Service included new crystal ( orig cracked) replaced hour hammer and replaced missing pusher (current part is exactly same as orig). Quite pleased with it.
Congratulations, it’s a lovely watch with a cool backstory. I thought that dial would be nice!
 
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I was not brave buyer this came to me in trade with OF member/ friend. Service included new crystal ( orig cracked) replaced hour hammer and replaced missing pusher (current part is exactly same as orig). Quite pleased with it.
Wow!
That watch cleaned up extremely well! And it was a 67 - Congrats!