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watchtinker
路@watchtinker, is there something about the balance that's different?
Omega Speedmaster 105.003 5 digit serial number
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watchtinker
路You're attracted to nothing but balance wheels, aren't you? 馃榿
Of course: balance wheels/hairsprings make the watch.
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oddboy
路Flat spring vs Breguet?
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cagkut
路If I source a balance wheel that's stamped it will turn into a cal 321 then
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Fost
路I have this one...
But it is inside my Ed...
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But it is inside my Ed...
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The_Walrus
路The movement is working very well and the dial is not re-lumed, it is a beautiful dial with a dark brown overall colour. Thing is, I bought it from a local collector and was sure that everything was correct till I opened the case and saw these after several weeks and was very upset initially to see the watch was not all correct. I need to re-make my mind now to whether keep it or not...AND I can't figure out why on earth that part would have had to be changed at all, it's not a moving part which wears out is it?
Are you able to raise your concerns with the seller?
That would be the starting point for me.
Clearly you were misinformed of the correctness of the parts.
Perhaps they can refund some money and you can begin your 321 movement hunt.
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cell1010
路I also think it might be a worthwhile project to return this watch to factory specs. Naming it, sourcing a correct movement and chrono hand. In the meanwhile you can enjoy the watch as it is. However, I think you should discuss the issues with the seller and ask for a compensation. At 6500$ it would be a bit too much for me as starting point for a project. On the other hand, if you sell the watch in parts, you might no lose out, even at 6500$...
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cagkut
路Are you able to raise your concerns with the seller?
That would be the starting point for me.
Clearly you were misinformed of the correctness of the parts.
Perhaps they can refund some money and you can begin your 321 movement hunt.
Well I did that but his initial response has not been affirmative, he is suggesting that it has been too long for returning it. Considering it's past few months since I bought it, he is in a way correct. On top of this it was my mistake not to check the movement properly after having been fascinated by the beauty of the dial and the low price, and to assume the watch was correct because it was the second Speedmaster that I was buying from him, the first one being a perfect 69 cal861, and because he is a local collector/trader. But at the end of the day this is a fundamental issue and I insisted he gets it back, which he did not reply yet. I will see. I am much more comfortable seeing the movement is not totally a bogus. Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts.
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Pahawi
路Being a collector, maybe he has a better example to trade with you?
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oddboy
路I don't recommend messing with movement parts, but look what just popped up on ebay..
http://m.ebay.com/itm/332189323248?_mwBanner=1
Good luck with your decision and negotiations, and in the meantime, wear the heck out of that watch!
http://m.ebay.com/itm/332189323248?_mwBanner=1
Good luck with your decision and negotiations, and in the meantime, wear the heck out of that watch!
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cell1010
路Then he still misses the correct number... and it stays a meddled movement. I'd chase a complete correct movement...
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cvrle1
路Well I did that but his initial response has not been affirmative, he is suggesting that it has been too long for returning it. Considering it's past few months since I bought it, he is in a way correct. On top of this it was my mistake not to check the movement properly after having been fascinated by the beauty of the dial and the low price, and to assume the watch was correct because it was the second Speedmaster that I was buying from him, the first one being a perfect 69 cal861, and because he is a local collector/trader. But at the end of the day this is a fundamental issue and I insisted he gets it back, which he did not reply yet. I will see. I am much more comfortable seeing the movement is not totally a bogus. Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts.
Not to be a jagoff, but if I was the seller I wouldnt accept it back either. Few months, way too long of a time. If it was a week or 2, fine, months, no bloody way. Months is plenty of time for you to do who knows what with watch. How do I know that you havent made modifications to the movement, changed parts around and so on. I would tell you to pound sand and call it a day.
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cristos71
路Well I did that but his initial response has not been affirmative, he is suggesting that it has been too long for returning it. Considering it's past few months since I bought it, he is in a way correct. On top of this it was my mistake not to check the movement properly after having been fascinated by the beauty of the dial and the low price, and to assume the watch was correct because it was the second Speedmaster that I was buying from him, the first one being a perfect 69 cal861, and because he is a local collector/trader. But at the end of the day this is a fundamental issue and I insisted he gets it back, which he did not reply yet. I will see. I am much more comfortable seeing the movement is not totally a bogus. Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts.
For me it is a question of principles, not whether or not you can get your money back by breaking it up, nor whether or not you can source a correct Speedmaster 321 movement in the right range for this reference and then pay a watchmaker to do the necessary work. These things are headaches. You thought you'd got a good deal, not a PITA headache!
I would in no uncertain terms demand my money back. You have been cheated, ok you certainly should have done your homework and at least checked the movement before handing over the cash but jeez, being sold a Speedmaster 105.003 without a 321 inside of it by somebody you know and have previous dealings with stinks big time.
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Horologyhusky
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richardew
路Not sure what he claimed to have sold you but you didn't get a legitimate Omega Speedmaster 105.003. The sale was fraudulent. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know if your contract with him was written or verbal, but the shortest statute of limitations for an oral contract is in California and it is 2 years. Since you are just now discovering that the sale was fraudulent, and you are well within any states statute of limitations, I would pursue legal means. At a minimum I would take it to small claims court where you could potentially recover most of you loss. You might even get expert witnesses from the forum for your case.
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Davidt
路Didn't the OP say the seller just sells all sorts of estate items?
If the sale was along the lines of "this piece has just come in, looks like a Speedmaster but I'm going to get it checked out, or you can buy it sold as seen" then it's cavear emptor IMO. I wouldn't sell a watch that way, but I've bought some under those terms. Under these circumstances several months is too long to go back and complain.
If on the other hand, the seller was a watch dealer advertising a correct 105.003, I'd be paying him a visit.
If the sale was along the lines of "this piece has just come in, looks like a Speedmaster but I'm going to get it checked out, or you can buy it sold as seen" then it's cavear emptor IMO. I wouldn't sell a watch that way, but I've bought some under those terms. Under these circumstances several months is too long to go back and complain.
If on the other hand, the seller was a watch dealer advertising a correct 105.003, I'd be paying him a visit.
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