Omega sourcing watch parts from outside of Switzerland

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It's pretty much always been the case, a lot of the parts and materials required from meteorites, to elephants, to porpoises, to oysters, to crocodiles aren't readily available in Switzerland. Watches require a whole lot of sea-food.
I can name a watch with a marine animal as part of its parts. Heck it’s even an Onwga.


….oh I’m not thinking of mother of pearl either. So I’m not thinking about a dial material.

It’s an animal definitely not from Switzerland lol.
 
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The “Swiss made” is fairly weak. Completely different standard than what’s required to meet an “American made” product.
Swiss made in the watch world means 60% Swiss.
 
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well we know they do it to cost cut. However, this sometimes erodes quality
I am interested in learning what specific quality concerns you've experienced with your Omega's.
 
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So I am hearing that jewels, straps, crystals and bracelets. Not sure which models use what but this what is being said.

I bought a Seamaster bracelet two years ago on its own. The bracelet was in package from Omega and it was marked Swiss. So that bracelet was not made in China.
 
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Swiss made in the watch world means 60% Swiss.
First, I believe they just bumped that from 50%. Furthermore, that doesn’t mean 60% of assembly in Switzerland, but rather the costs are 60% in the country. Which can easily be achieved by attributing marketing costs to it. That’s people concern. That’s the one nice thing about the Ed White 321, it was hand assembled in Switzerland (or at least assumed to be).
 
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So I am hearing that jewels, straps, crystals and bracelets. Not sure which models use what but this what is being said.
So, I am hearing that watches are made of seafood and I love seafood! Not sure which models use what edible parts, but this is what is being said.

I can state that I read it right here in a current thread on Omega Forums.

Until we see documentation we won't know what parts are sourced from outside Switzerland.
 
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What are everyone's thoughts about Omega sourcing watch parts from outside of Switzerland?
This pops up every so often, usually when a fairly new collector discovers the rules surrounding what Swiss Made means, they get anxious, and start to Google.

I'll just say that as an Omega certified watchmaker, I have ordered many thousands of parts from Omega, and the only items I have ever seen with a country of origin on the package that is other then Switzerland, are items that are attachments -0 in other words not the watch head, but things like this strap:



This is from France, because that is where the strap maker that Omega uses is located - Interstrap SA:



This is not unusual at all - for example JLC is widely known to get their straps from another French company, Camille Fournet.

Every movement part, or part of the watch head, like these hands, were of Swiss origin:



Or this barrel bridge for a Cal. 1120:


First, I believe they just bumped that from 50%.
It was a while ago now, and Swatch actually pushed for the requirement to be higher, but too many other brands pushed back, so they settled on 60%
 
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So long as the quality is monitored to be up to a high standard, it shouldn't matter much.......but they can't let the parsimonious bean counters erode to standards of quality, just to save a few quick bucks for short term gain!
You would agree, if they are doing it, they are doing it to improve their bottom line, not to improve their quality. I have searched on google with an AI response that says Omega does out source watch parts, like straps, band, crystals and jewels. I search Rolex, AP, Cartier and Grand Seiko in the same way and the AI response shows they do not. Grand Seiko does everything in house. So, if a company like Rolex isn't doing it, you would also agree that they don't do it to protect their quality and reputation.
 
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You would agree, if they are doing it, they are doing it to improve their bottom line, not to improve their quality. I have searched on google with an AI response that says Omega does out source watch parts, like straps, band, crystals and jewels. I search Rolex, AP, Cartier and Grand Seiko in the same way and the AI response shows they do not. Grand Seiko does everything in house. So, if a company like Rolex isn't doing it, you would also agree that they don't do it to protect their quality and reputation.
Google searches and AI - well evidence doesn't get much better than that, right? ::facepalm1::
 
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It helps to simply know what the regulation of the term "Swiss Made" implies, and then to assume the worst. Unless you get info from Omega itself, or its suppliers, it's all speculation.
I hear "Swiss made" today means 60%. I don't know if that is 60% of all the all parts or by weight. The good news is 60% is an actual increase from what use to be 50% in 2014.
 
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I am interested in learning what specific quality concerns you've experienced with your Omega's.
I have not, but I'm just asking for different options based on how everyone feels that their watch may carry parts from outside Switzerland
 
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Google searches and AI - well evidence doesn't get much better than that, right? ::facepalm1::
So you are saying you are confident that all aspects of your watch is inside Switzerland or you don't care?
 
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So you are saying you are confident that all aspects of your watch is inside Switzerland or you don't care?
I'll just say that as an Omega certified watchmaker, I have ordered many thousands of parts from Omega, and the only items I have ever seen with a country of origin on the package that is other then Switzerland, are items that are attachments - in other words not the watch head, but things like this strap:
 
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You would agree, if they are doing it, they are doing it to improve their bottom line, not to improve their quality. I have searched on google with an AI response that says Omega does out source watch parts, like straps, band, crystals and jewels. I search Rolex, AP, Cartier and Grand Seiko in the same way and the AI response shows they do not. Grand Seiko does everything in house. So, if a company like Rolex isn't doing it, you would also agree that they don't do it to protect their quality and reputation.
Omg it’s like everything I predicted would be said.
 
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So you are saying you are confident that all aspects of your watch is inside Switzerland or you don't care?

This is what is known as dithering over that which one has no control.

If a person is unsatisfied with the content of his Swiss watches he can always dispose of them and collect Swiss Army knives, Swiss chocolates, or Swiss cheese.
 
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Oh you are an Omega certified watch maker. So you are saying that case, crystal and movement are all Omega?
 
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I have searched on google with an AI response that says Omega does out source watch parts, like straps, band, crystals and jewels. I search Rolex, AP, Cartier and Grand Seiko in the same way and the AI response shows they do not. Grand Seiko does everything in house. So, if a company like Rolex isn't doing it, you would also agree that they don't do it to protect their quality and reputation.

Oh, AI said so. Well that could never be wrong. Eyeroll emoji
 
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I know Grand Seiko isn't Swiss, but all part comes from Japan
The Grand Seiko is your best possible choice given your stated concerns with Swiss made watches.
 
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The Grand Seiko is your best possible choice given your stated concerns with Swiss made watches.
Given the lack of native Japanese crocodiles and iron ore mines in Japan, one could argue that Grand Seiko should be marked Made In Australia as by weight they’re certainly from down under.
 
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Oh you are an Omega certified watch maker. So you are saying that case, crystal and movement are all Omega?
I have seen zero evidence to indicate otherwise. And by evidence, I do not mean speculation videos on YouTube, or A.I. generated summaries, but actual evidence of the origin on a package or other documentation.