OMEGA Seamaster Ref.2577-2 Bumper - Thoughts please?

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Hi folks,

I'm new to Omega vintage and want to buy a vintage watch.

Can any of you seasoned experts? Let me know if you think this watch and dial are legit?

From what I see usually "Seamaster" is usually written above the 6pm but in this case it's below the Omega logo.

Any help or feedback would be appreciated?
 
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Here’s a nice thread showcasing numerous 2577 examples and info (some with the same dial configuration):


but for more reliable feedback more seasoned expert will may come along.
 
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Here’s a nice thread showcasing numerous 2577 examples and info (some with the same dial configuration):


but for more reliable feedback more seasoned expert will may come along.
Thank you so much! I went through that thoroughly and couldn't find the same dial.

That's why I'm kind of wondering.
 
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The "Seamaster" text in the top half of the dial is a legit variation, and I saw the original picture of the listing from chrono24 and it looks fine to me. I would be more doubtful about the movement, as the different shade of the rhodium plating suggests certain parts may have been replaced (oscillating mass, bridge..).
 
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The "Seamaster" text in the top half of the dial is a legit variation, and I saw the original picture of the listing from chrono24 and it looks fine to me. I would be more doubtful about the movement, as the different shade of the rhodium plating suggests certain parts may have been replaced (oscillating mass, bridge..).
Thank you very much for that comment. If a watch was overhauled and serviced since it's from 1950 would that be normal for certain parts to be replaced so that it functions better?
 
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Thank you very much for that comment. If a watch was overhauled and serviced since it's from 1950 would that be normal for certain parts to be replaced so that it functions better?
Sure, absolutely possible. Replaced parts and originality apply to the concept of collecting, where a watch that is original in every part - just as it left the factory - is more appealing and therefore has a higher market value. Naturally, if a part breaks and you want to keep the watch alive and running, the only choice is to replace that part. Generally, this means the watch would lose some of its value.
Regardless of whether you’re interested in the concept of originality and collectibility, it’s still a useful criterion to determine if you’re paying a fair price for what you’re buying.
Then, here more experienced people can give you an opinion on the watch’s value and whether the price is fair.
 
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Sure, absolutely possible. Replaced parts and originality apply to the concept of collecting, where a watch that is original in every part - just as it left the factory - is more appealing and therefore has a higher market value. Naturally, if a part breaks and you want to keep the watch alive and running, the only choice is to replace that part. Generally, this means the watch would lose some of its value.
Regardless of whether you’re interested in the concept of originality and collectibility, it’s still a useful criterion to determine if you’re paying a fair price for what you’re buying.
Then, here more experienced people can give you an opinion on the watch’s value and whether the price is fair.
Super useful. Thank you for being patient with a newbie. Omega vintage watch hunter! Really appreciate your expertise.
 
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Always edit the picture to see the details!



a beauty!
Any feedback or comments in terms of the authenticity? Is there any parts that you feel make it a Frankenstein watch?
 
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The "Seamaster" text in the top half of the dial is a legit variation, and I saw the original picture of the listing from chrono24 and it looks fine to me. I would be more doubtful about the movement, as the different shade of the rhodium plating suggests certain parts may have been replaced (oscillating mass, bridge..).
I've been looking more to find Seamaster on the top of the dial, but I can't find any examples where it says the Omega logo, then automatic then Seamaster.

I can find examples with Seamaster on the top of the dial under the Omega logo but in those instances it doesn't say "automatic".

Thoughts?
 
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Looks like a nice, original early SM to me.
It's interesting. I just can't find any examples with the seamaster on the top of dial where it says automatic below Omega except for this one.
 
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From the thread I mentioned earlier, the dial is a different variation. However, it’s still an Omega Automatic Seamaster, if it is what you mean. As said happened for early model.
 
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From the thread I mentioned earlier, the dial is a different variation. However, it’s still an Omega Automatic Seamaster, if it is what you mean. As said happened for early model.
Yeah I see what you're saying. I saw that but I thought it was different because the loom dots beside the Roman numerals look different in the photos I've posted. That's where I was confused.
 
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This model started life without any Seamaster branding on the dial. I suspect yours is one of the very first that had the text added. Here is an old one of mine that was made just before this change. You can see how they just added the SM text then later moved over the messing about with placement. I suspect you are over thinking this, the example you show looks very nice and straight to my eye.

 
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This model started life without any Seamaster branding on the dial. I suspect yours is one of the very first that had the text added. Here is an old one of mine that was made just before this change. You can see how they just added the SM text then later moved over the messing about with placement. I suspect you are over thinking this, the example you show looks very nice and straight to my eye.

Thanks so much! I guess the reason I'm overthinking it is because I've heard so much stuff online about how you need to be super careful when buying your first few Omega vintage pieces because of so many remakes and unoriginals.
 
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Yeah I see what you're saying. I saw that but I thought it was different because the loom dots beside the Roman numerals look different in the photos I've posted. That's where I was confused.
Alright I see. The abundance of different dial variations, with minor or more relevant differences, is a characteristic of Omega, already in the 1950s, peaking I would say in the ’60s, and beyond. It’s one of the features that makes them more aesthetically appealing and collectible (in addition to their inherent mechanical quality). Many 2577 I’ve seen have the Seamaster text applied separately from the ‘Omega Automatic’ print, as mentioned above, appearing sometime slightly bolder or darker. This is why you can find variants without the Seamaster text or with it placed at six o’clock, etc and I might be sometime difficult to find an exact "tween".
 
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Alright I see. The abundance of different dial variations, with minor or more relevant differences, is a characteristic of Omega, already in the 1950s, peaking I would say in the ’60s, and beyond. It’s one of the features that makes them more aesthetically appealing and collectible (in addition to their inherent mechanical quality). Many 2577 I’ve seen have the Seamaster text applied separately from the ‘Omega Automatic’ print, as mentioned above, appearing sometime slightly bolder or darker. This is why you can find variants without the Seamaster text or with it placed at six o’clock, etc and I might be sometime difficult to find an exact "tween".
That is super interesting and then it makes it very unique as you mentioned, which is really cool I believe!