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Omega Seamaster Dial Dimension

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I’m looking to replace the dial on my Cal.565 Omega Seamaster. A bloody expensive exercise as I’m sure most can understand. However this is a forever watch and I’d like to get it right.

I have found a NOS dial for the Cal.565 but I can’t confirm the dial dimensions. Can anyone help? My original dial looks to be 28.5mm but that’s a basic measurement in the case, I’ll do a better one when I take the movement out to do some work on it.

Does anyone have a resource to help me understand the dimensions on an Omega part?

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Davidt
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You need to go by the case ref, not caliber. That dial is for seamaster 300 165.024 / 166.024.

What reference is your watch?
 
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So it should fit.
Not it’s not a new old stick dial, just a new dial. In the UK a brand new dial from Omega is £250.
 
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Davidt Davidt
So it should fit.
Not it’s not a new old stick dial, just a new dial. In the UK a brand new dial from Omega is £250.
Is it possible to buy replacement dials from anywhere? I know they’re a highly restricted item.
 
Davidt
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No you’d need to get one from a watchmaker with an Omega parts account and then they’ll often only sell/install them as part of a service.
 
neevo
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Whilst not cheap, I’m in talks to purchase this dial. The short term pain will be offset by long term enjoyment of my watch.

It opens up questions of how to match the hands I have to the dial and keen to have people’s thoughts on this.

Does anyone know how these dials were lumed and the appropriate options I have to match?

1. Relume the hands I have using modern materials
2. Send the hands to someone to have them professionally matched
3. Find a source for OEM hands and go through the shock again of buying OEM Omega parts 😒
 
Davidt
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What do you mean “how they were lumed”?

Do you just mean the material? They’re superluminova
 
theluckyluke
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Perhaps share some pictures of what you currently have, so we can get an idea to better help you.
 
neevo
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What do you mean “how they were lumed”?

Do you just mean the material? They’re superluminova
Yes exactly. I know the original 60’s ones were tritium or something similarly radioactive. I assumed later ones would be modern lume.

In which case I could match myself.
 
neevo
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I’ve purchased the dial and the same vendor has a supply of OEM hands for sale too. Seems like a retired watch makers stock.

The hands look very close to the dial but I’d want to triple check before buying as they’re also not cheap.

The seconds hand however seems to be painted white with lume on the end. Is that normal for a 1968 166.024 watch?

I’m not sure I like that vs having silver.
 
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Judging by the dial, the hands won’t be vintage, they’ll be modern service hands.
 
neevo
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I’m actually fine with the replacement hands being modern ones. I was just hoping to match the dial which also will be a modern replacement I assume.

I just wanted to match the hands with the dial on the lume as much as possible.

I’m just not sure on the white seconds hand which appears to be period correct for a 1968 300 in a 166.024 case.

The reason for replacing the hands and dial is because I’m building a homage watch (a la watchco). The movement is Omega, but the case is not as I couldn’t fine a genuine one without paying $4k which was way beyond my budget. So I bought a reproduction case and for not much extra I could also get a dial and hands, but the lume on them is too fake looking.

So I’m in the process of replacing all the parts I can with genuine Omega and given I don’t care about authenticity as I could have left the factory, I’m building it as I would like it to look… which is with the beautiful white/green lume.
 
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Watchcos use genuine modern parts. If you are building a fake, why do you care what was fitted in 1968? You might as well buy a Watchco if you can't find genuine parts like the case at a sensible price any more.
 
neevo
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padders padders
Watchcos use genuine modern parts. If you are building a fake, why do you care what was fitted in 1968?
It’s more about the availability of parts. I’m pretty much building a watchco except for the case. The only genuine hands I can find for the 166.024 have a white seconds hand.

I can relume the hands I have but I’m almost 100% sure they not genuine Omega.
 
neevo
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I think I prefer the idea of using as many OEM omega parts as possible if I can. Even if I don’t prefer the white seconds hand. At least then I’d know they are genuine hands and it would also be period correct.
 
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neevo neevo
It’s more about the availability of parts. I’m pretty much building a watchco except for the case. The only genuine hands I can find for the 166.024 have a white seconds hand.

I can relume the hands I have but I’m almost 100% sure they not genuine Omega.
Hmm. And from another POV you are building a fake with some geniune parts. Which rather negates the point in having the genuine parts I would have thought. This is a slippery slope I am afraid. If you had all legit parts you could send your watch to Omega or an Omega authorised place for parts and work, with a fake case fitted they will probably knock it back. There is something to be said for the Watchco approach since it opens the door to official channels and further official replacement parts.
 
neevo
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This is the dial and hands I can find. They look like they all match but it’s hard to tell from photos.

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