Omega Seamaster and Constellation Dials?

robocaspar · Mar 1, 2018

Hi all,

Picked up a few dials from a retired watchmaker recently. 2 Constellation dials and one Seamaster.

The Arrowhead constellation dial I'm assuming goes on a cal 562 or 565.

The other constellation came in a bag marked Cal 561, not 100% if this is correct.

Now the Seamaster dial has me stumped, I can't find any similiar dials in A Journey Through Time. Also both the Seamaster and Arabic numeral Constellation dials have notches between 4-5 and 10-11 o'clock as well as a small notch at 3oclock.

If anyone can shed some light on these dials, it would be much appreciated.

Bill Sohne · Mar 1, 2018

Arrow head dial that mark Connie cal.... I think would be a 504...

Got a think more about the others...

Bill

robocaspar · Mar 1, 2018

Bill Sohne
Arrow head dial that mark Connie cal.... I think would be a 504...

Got a think more about the others...

Bill

Thanks bill!

gatorcpa · Mar 1, 2018

This one looks to fit a cal. 551 movement. Never seen one like it before, but has right fonts and passes MOY test.

Would like to see if it fits a Ref. 167.005 case.
gatorcpa

Dero13 · Mar 1, 2018

gatorcpa

This one looks to fit a cal. 551 movement. Never seen one like it before, but has right fonts and passes MOY test.

Would like to see if it fits a Ref. 167.005 case.
gatorcpa

I've never seen this dial before. Very interesting!

Peemacgee · Mar 2, 2018

‘Fully-arabic’ dials are not common - bit of a British thing by all accounts.

But never seen a fully-Arabic pie-pan, only dome dials.
The fonts do look correct but I’d question some of the hour markers and finish on the facets.

omegastar · Mar 2, 2018

The Seamaster dial comes, if I remember correct from a 165.002.
I must have pics somewhere, I think I posted a picture in WRUW a long time ago.
Mounir

omegastar · Mar 2, 2018

Found it : https://omegaforums.net/threads/thought-on-the-seamaster-165-002-military-dial.36684/

robocaspar · Mar 2, 2018

omegastar
Found it : https://omegaforums.net/threads/thought-on-the-seamaster-165-002-military-dial.36684/

Oh wow, great detective work!

robocaspar · Mar 2, 2018

Peemacgee
‘Fully-arabic’ dials are not common - bit of a British thing by all accounts.

But never seen a fully-Arabic pie-pan, only dome dials.
The fonts do look correct but I’d question some of the hour markers and finish on the facets.

The oil paint effect is probably from my phone camera.

I'll try to take better photos tonight with my wife's phone

robocaspar · Mar 2, 2018

Here's some better pics of the Arabic dial constellation

robocaspar · Mar 2, 2018

Google image search turned up a similar constellation with arabic numerals though not pie pan. Ref 167.005

https://www.watches.co.uk/omega-vintage-constellation-18723S

gatorcpa · Mar 2, 2018

I would like to see the underside of the dial for a maker's mark. My gut feeling is that this dial was made for Omega strictly as an optional replacement dial.

robocaspar
Google image search turned up a similar constellation with arabic numerals though not pie pan. Ref 167.005

https://www.watches.co.uk/omega-vintage-constellation-18723S

That example was made for UK market. The numerals on the dial above are a little different.
gatorcpa

Peemacgee · Mar 2, 2018

The rear is shown above
There’s not a lot on the back of the dial

robocaspar · Mar 5, 2018

As @Peemacgee mentioned. Nothing on the caseback beside the number 19.

Peemacgee · Mar 5, 2018

not strictly true
there is also a reference number
unfortunately I've no idea what it means but the great ones might
Edit should have added @gatorcpa

Foo2rama · Mar 5, 2018

robocaspar
As @Peemacgee mentioned. Nothing on the caseback beside the number 19.

not liking the line up of the inner minute marker track...

Peemacgee · Mar 5, 2018

if its a redial its remarkably well done

robocaspar · Mar 5, 2018

Peemacgee
not strictly true
there is also a reference number
unfortunately I've no idea what it means but the great ones might
Edit should have added @gatorcpa

Oh wow I did not even notice that.

robocaspar · Mar 5, 2018

Foo2rama
not liking the line up of the inner minute marker track...

Maybe it's an effect of the shot angle? The dial is slanting slightly since it's sitting on the dial feet

Omega Seamaster and Constellation Dials?

robocaspar

Bill Sohne

robocaspar

gatorcpa

Dero13

Peemacgee

omegastar

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robocaspar

robocaspar

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robocaspar

gatorcpa

Peemacgee

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Peemacgee

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