Omega sea master 300m professional diver caliber 1154

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A watch I own , bought it for sentimental reasons . It's authentic best I can tell , I have box papers been examined.
A co-worker had this watch in this color . Movement is caliber 1154 . From what I have read I think it was made for 3 years 1998 99 2000 . After it's much whiter and caliber 1164.
Does anyone here know why , what is true on this watch .
I did find a review in this color lost now . Works fine like is almost gone , if use a light some comes back . Next question is do have lume are done ? White model 2001 on seems to have a more green line in daylight too.
I'll post serial number later today.
Below is a face for sale on eBay
Next is newer version caliber 1164
I do enjoy collecting things watches being one
Thanks in advance for any knowledge

 
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ok , ive read up more and even more confused .
my case serial number is 46616673 , caliber 1154 movement 1992 onward. in looking up by serial number the case is made 1982 . the color is as it was from pics i have of my coworker. now what i bought while authenticated I'm new to this process. came from japan . ive seen these watches in the cream white , even just faces used. also seen one in diamonds. now caliber 1164 is a newer movement i read .
help me understand and no matter what i will not be insulted by anyone's opinions. im asking as i even had a watch person i know while look at it . his view was yea its real , but might have parts changed. anything for sale that's white ive seen is calibre 1164 and serial numbers show after 2000. any thoughts to help a confused person . i own some 50 watches new and old . it works fine and gives me about 40 hours if left to run in norm mode no timing mode . ps i love making the large second sweep hand on any of watches when i wear them . one thing i did notice is it must be wound up a good amount to keep good time if i Engauge the timing mode .
 
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in looking up by serial number the case is made 1982 .
Serialno. databases on the web can't be trusted.
 
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Your watch was made sometime from 1994-1997. No earlier or later date makes any sense at all.
 
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Your dial is tritium, while the third picture you showed is of super luminova. The second dial is what yours SHOULD look like now after aging, but something (moisture?) discolored the circular lume plots into that moldy dark brown. Surprisingly, whatever happened did t affect the 12, 6, and 9 o’clock markers.
 
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First off a big thanks for helping, out eating dinner now. When I'm back I'll take a bunch of good pictures. The dial is the around the edge is the same , but I agree with your comments . My memories of the watch were white not cream .
https://ebay.us/m/DciDz0.
I added a link to when I bought it .also is a screen shot of the add . It's color is uniform yet odd .

 
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Why? What else do you hope to achieve?
 
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The reason that some of these markers turn yellow or even moldy green like yours, is because the markers themselves contain tritium (a radioactive form of hydrogen) within the structure of the paint itself. Tritium emits beta particles via Protons decaying into neutrons; a very high energy electron that energizes the luminescent material that is also contained within the marker.

So as long as the tritium can emit radioactive energy, the markers can stay glowing in a sort of "always on" state.


The downside is that once hydrogen decays in this fashion, it is now effectively a helium, as the nucleus contains two protons and one neutron. Helium doesn't like being bound in material like this... so your paint is literally breaking down at the molecular level, which causes it to discolor (patina)

As for why the circle around the edge is discolored similarly, my guess would be a combination of oxidation and perhaps a small amount of water ingress. Beta particles aren't dangerous to people but it is possible that they could interact with molecules on the dial itself. But some of these older paints are less resistant to damage from ultraviolet light as well.

Cream through almost orange are the most common colors that tritium dials patina to. Sometimes tritium material will turn lime green (this is common on mid 90s seamaster handsets and some earlier 70s dials).... I wonder, and let me clarify that this is literally just me wondering so it's a straight guess- I wonder if this moldy green color occurs as water molecules interacts with the paint as it's decaying and possibly replace some of the missing atoms in the structure.

Anyway hope that helps. Omega quit using tritium as a luminescent material in 1997 and moved over to Super luminova, which is excited by ultraviolet light that is not radioactive and does not undergo any sort of radioactive decay.
 
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I have no idea what I'm supposed to achieve, one of my thoughts is am I nuts in the color . The year it's made . Do I get the lumin done over ? By who how much. The face color I would not touch . Anyone have thoughts on this please assist . I own 3 other omega watches all newer .
 
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It was definitely made in the mid 90's. Tritium was banned in Switzerland by 1998 so it could not be later than that. And wave dial Seamasters (of any kind) were not made before 1993.
 
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If the faded inert tritium lume annoys you and you truly love the watch, you could send it to Omega (or a watchmaker with a parts account) for a full service and request and hand and dial change. The new items would use Superluminova which is the whiter compound you have noticed that does not deteriorate. The cost would be maybe £300/€300 or so on top of the full service cost so you could be looking at 4 figures all in: not cheap! As I say it may or may not be worth it to you. An alternative, as you suggest above is to have the dial and hands relumed but it might not be much cheaper and might not lead to a perfect result. The ebay dial you show is better than yours but also tritium so will Iikely darken further and not glow at all.

Normally collectors would shy away from swapping a patinated tritium dial for a shiny new SL one, but where the lume is mouldy and grey green it's less of an issue, particularly on a nouveau-vintage piece like this which won't look as out of place with fresh working lume as a 60s piece.
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I really appreciate the information, and in putting more web searches yes I think it turns color . The only thing I can't is pictures of new , it makes me wonder if it was cream and the rest just time additional variation. I found a seller on eBay from Swiss has new face but it's for a 1164 movement . Lums look better but I'm thinking it's still an old color .
From your experience if given to omega for new face is new white or cream ? Curious . But do think it's better left alone unless it stops working . Does anyone have a picture of what they replace it with? Thanks in advance
 
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Omega will only replace with a SuperLuminova dial. Never tritium. The third pic you showed in your first post is a SuperLuminova dial.
 
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ive given this more thought, i have local high watch store in Raleigh, N.C.
ill go tomorrow and bring the watch and get a quote. I assume its and forgive my improper wording of parts.
new face , new hands all of them a total of 6 ? or do they clean and re surface ? . also the exterior has one Lume at noon . ill ask them to service it as i have record and have them polish completely.
i have 3 extra links and an assortment of pins tubes and screws from otto frie . a very confusing website lol . does this sound ok ?
again, thanks for holding my hand along in this . i do enjoy doing some watch work myself but honestly inside on movements better to pay i think .
 
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ive given this more thought, i have local high watch store in Raleigh, N.C.
ill go tomorrow and bring the watch and get a quote. I assume its and forgive my improper wording of parts.
new face , new hands all of them a total of 6 ? or do they clean and re surface ? . also the exterior has one Lume at noon . ill ask them to service it as i have record and have them polish completely.
i have 3 extra links and an assortment of pins tubes and screws from otto frie . a very confusing website lol . does this sound ok ?
again, thanks for holding my hand along in this . i do enjoy doing some watch work myself but honestly inside on movements better to pay i think .

The Omega Service Center cost on servicing a mechanical chronograph is $1,000 in the USA. That includes servicing the movement (including replacing any internal parts that are broken or worn), new hands, new crowns, and new gaskets. It also includes refinishing the case and bracelet. Just send them all the bracelet parts and they will figure it out. The bracelet does not need to be assembled when you send it.

If you want a new dial or bezel that will cost extra. Dials usually run about $500 and bezels are about $300. A new bezel includes the scalloped frame and the insert. Based on the photos you probably don't need a new bezel--but if you want the watch to look brand new all around, and an extra $300 is not a problem, I would get the new bezel.
 
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Thanks I'll pay that for sure , I do have 3 extra links at home. Again thanks I'll call them when back home and make a trip tomorrow morning to drop off links . So after paying about 3k and 2k more a 5k watch but new seems fair to me and thanks for advice
 
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Thanks I'll pay that for sure , I do have 3 extra links at home. Again thanks I'll call them when back home and make a trip tomorrow morning to drop off links . So after paying about 3k and 2k more a 5k watch but new seems fair to me and thanks for advice
If you like the design, I think buying a preowned 90's Omega Seamaster and getting it serviced and the parts replaced to look like new is a sound plan. I did this with a 2531.80 Seamaster 300m (the 90's Bond Seamaster). I had Omega replace the hands, crowns, dial, and bezel, refinish the case and bracelet, and service the movement. I think it ended up being around $4,500 all in and was returned to me a watch that looked pretty much like new. Compare that to a current model around $6-7k and it's a pretty good value. Plus, I prefer the designs from the 90's over today anyway.