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SteveZ28
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Hey Guys,

I've been following this forum for a little while and haven't had a chance to post much. I have a 165.002 with a 552 that is away being serviced. (coming on 6 months now.... getting a little worried)

But I have come across this listing on ebay.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/222095785522?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Is there something special with the red star? I cant seem to find much information on it. Another forum's thread suggested the red star was a mark for a watch with a movement that was from the same line that obtained the best results at a precision competition and usually came out of south America.

Anyone have any other information on this?
 
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dantaspaulo
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They were *very* popular in Brazil in the 40s and 50s -- it was related to a prize won by Omega at the Teddington Observatory with the 30T2 movt (if I'm not mistaken).
 
Vitezi
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There are Omega advertisements that describe the significance of the red star, such as this one:
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Finrod Felagund
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Watches with red star symbol was dedicated to Brazilian market.

The "precision competition" you speak of is the 1940 Kew Teddington, but Omega broke it with cal. 30T2 SC. Red star was onward used for marketing purpose on Brazilian market.

So congrats! your watch is brazilian ;-)

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dantaspaulo
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and it says:

"The star on the dial indicates the Teddington model as the wristwatch that carries the same movement that was awarded a prize as the most accurate ever at Teddington Observatory"

In 1940, Omega was awarded the best result in history at the Teddington Observatory for a wristwatch and you can now own the very same king of movement. Visit an authorized dealer and pick your Teddington model and you will then own the officially certified watch!"

Just a side info: the watch would cost USD 50 today, inflation adjusted. 🙁
 
dantaspaulo
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Another side info: from my experience (and I learned this the hard way) and due to humidity levels in Brazil, it's nearly impossible to find a 30T2 (red star or not) that is not redialled down here.
 
Mr Bing
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That's a nice little watch, shame the dial is in such poor condition.
 
SteveZ28
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dantaspaulo dantaspaulo
and it says:

"The star on the dial indicates the Teddington model as the wristwatch that carries the same movement that was awarded a prize as the most accurate ever at Teddington Observatory"

In 1940, Omega was awarded the best result in history at the Teddington Observatory for a wristwatch and you can now own the very same king of movement. Visit an authorized dealer and pick your Teddington model and you will then own the officially certified watch!"

Just a side info: the watch would cost USD 50 today, inflation adjusted. 🙁


Thanks for the translation! sadly my Portuguese isn't really up to snuff these days 😕

A great and very interesting back story behind the star it seems, looks like I'll be spending my afternoon researching the Kew-Teddington and Alfred Jaccard who apparently regulated the movements.

So would it be safe to assume that, the humidity would be the reason for the water marks and poor condition of this dial? and it would possibly be an original? I was thinking of making on offer on this piece. I think it gives the watch some character and would look great as a new daily wearer if I could get it for a pretty reasonable price.
 
SteveZ28
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Hijak Hijak
Looks like water damage inside and out!🙁

Do you think it would be worth it to try and clean it up? or is it to far gone?
 
Hijak
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Personally I wouldn't get involved in something like that...looks like a money pit to me.😲
 
SteveZ28
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Hijak Hijak
Personally I wouldn't get involved in something like that...looks like a money pit to me.😲

Thanks for the heads up, still learning the ropes a bit so maybe I'll save my funds for something a little less work. 👍
 
Finrod Felagund
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Hijak Hijak
Personally I wouldn't get involved in something like that...looks like a money pit to me.😲

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Dial can't be saved and patina isn't really good looking ;-)

Red star is for communists anyway!! :whipped:

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Hijak
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SteveZ28 SteveZ28
Thanks for the heads up, still learning the ropes a bit so maybe I'll save my funds for something a little less work. 👍
You should look at the Private Watch Sales thread here on Omega Forums, you just might find some thing interesting.
 
SteveZ28
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Hijak Hijak
You should look at the Private Watch Sales thread here on Omega Forums, you just might find some thing interesting.

I've been keeping an eye out on there. Some beautiful watches get passed along between members. I have been just trying to decide between something vintage like a constellation 14381 or go to something more modern like a 2503.80 Aqua Terra. Life is full of tough decisions.....
 
Finrod Felagund
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SteveZ28 SteveZ28
constellation 14381 or go to something more modern like a 2503.80 Aqua Terra

In this case you need to think about how you'll wear the watch... Everyday or occasional? if you sportive or not?...
 
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SteveZ28 SteveZ28
I've been keeping an eye out on there. Some beautiful watches get passed along between members. I have been just trying to decide between something vintage like a constellation 14381 or go to something more modern like a 2503.80 Aqua Terra. Life is full of tough decisions.....

Big difference between the Connies and the larger modern Omegas
Also lots more Constellations than the 14381
Check out the show and tell Connie thread for dozens of wonderful examples
Pie pans dome dials different case styles
Loads to choose from - and get hooked on!
 
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Highly doubt this was original "red star" for Brazilian market. The only watches that should have the star are those case references listed in the advertisement. This is a redial, pretty sure of it.
dantaspaulo dantaspaulo
Just a side info: the watch would cost USD 50 today, inflation adjusted. 🙁
And how many times has the Brazilian Real, Cruziero, Cruzado, etc. been revalued over the past 70 years?

I think that the inflation adjusted figure should have at least another 2 zeros after it.
gatorcpa
 
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