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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerAlso afaik Omega itself has now run out of the service cases and new batch is being now in quality check.
Please provide a source for this information thanks...
OMEGA PARTS & WATCHCO DISCOUNTS........
Please provide a source for this information thanks...
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pix98
·only few straps left
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Knudsen1971
·Omega service center watchmaker.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerOmega service center watchmaker.
Case is still available per the Omega Extranet...
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Knudsen1971
·Probably it was not available for some short period of time, as should be available at the end of April 2019 again I was told. So it is still in the extranet, since it was not discontinued. I know that, since one of my project got delayed, and this was stated as a reason for the delay.
Also I asked, if there is any change of design/materials in the new cases, and was told that no, they should look still the same (good news, lets see what will be the reality)
Also I asked, if there is any change of design/materials in the new cases, and was told that no, they should look still the same (good news, lets see what will be the reality)
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Stufflers Mom
·I talked to Marcus like a month ago and he is no longer having any Seamaster 300 parts in stock.
Also afaik Omega itself has now run out of the service cases and new batch is being now in quality check.
I can confirm that the service cases have passed all the quality checks, zip opens and closes correctly and foam insert is present.
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Knudsen1971
·Hi,
I forgot a bit to update you on this topic. The service case is still red, foam still gray... 😀
The SM 300 service case is a different story.... So far I have this findings:
Bezel has a new font, differs from any previous versions. Lume is the same intensity as the older luminova bezel.
The serrated bezel edge has bigger cut and has a better grip then previous one.
I may say the older type is closer to original (type E I think), but the new one has a quite vintage look...
Hands are I think also now not flat, but slightly curved as on early vintage models.
Case is the biggest change. Completely new lug shape, more close to CB cases. what is the big minus for me is that the crown guard has a straight cut and is not copying the crown shape. Otherwise nice vintage looking case.
Case back: again a sharp A in word waterproof 🙁 The reference stays the same 166.0324.
You can make your own opinion based on my pictures. Some photos are with the older "watchco" no date version for better comparison. Some pics with the older "watchco" service bezel.
I forgot a bit to update you on this topic. The service case is still red, foam still gray... 😀
The SM 300 service case is a different story.... So far I have this findings:
Bezel has a new font, differs from any previous versions. Lume is the same intensity as the older luminova bezel.
The serrated bezel edge has bigger cut and has a better grip then previous one.
I may say the older type is closer to original (type E I think), but the new one has a quite vintage look...
Hands are I think also now not flat, but slightly curved as on early vintage models.
Case is the biggest change. Completely new lug shape, more close to CB cases. what is the big minus for me is that the crown guard has a straight cut and is not copying the crown shape. Otherwise nice vintage looking case.
Case back: again a sharp A in word waterproof 🙁 The reference stays the same 166.0324.
You can make your own opinion based on my pictures. Some photos are with the older "watchco" no date version for better comparison. Some pics with the older "watchco" service bezel.
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speedamatuer
·Thanks for posting, that new bezel is going to take a bit of getting used to...
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Knudsen1971
·Must say, that when I got the watch, I was like 100% sure I`m going to replace the bezel, but now I quite like it...
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ChrisN
·If the hands are slightly curved, that was probably done by the watchmaker who assembled it.
Cheers, Chris
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Knudsen1971
·The bezel aligns the indices maybe better than the older style of bezel, which was know for no being 100% aligned too. I reality it is hard to see, depends on the angle, but I have no issue with that at all, photos makes it maybe worse than is the reality.
The hands are not bent, but curved in profile. Can be seen as having different light reflection than the flat ones.
As can be seen on some historical hand sets.
The hands are not bent, but curved in profile. Can be seen as having different light reflection than the flat ones.
As can be seen on some historical hand sets.
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OWa
·Hi Knudsen,
thanks for the information. Very interesting details on the case. I think that the service hands are curved since quite some time. I got mine about 2 or 3 years ago and those appear to have the same profile as earlier tritium ones. The following picture illustrates that. Tritium on the left an Superluminova on the right:
It‘s a little bit sad that they changed the font on the caseback. A pointy A used to be imho an indicator for a fake caseback. The lume of dial and hands match beautifully on your example.
Where did you source those parts?
Cheers
thanks for the information. Very interesting details on the case. I think that the service hands are curved since quite some time. I got mine about 2 or 3 years ago and those appear to have the same profile as earlier tritium ones. The following picture illustrates that. Tritium on the left an Superluminova on the right:
It‘s a little bit sad that they changed the font on the caseback. A pointy A used to be imho an indicator for a fake caseback. The lume of dial and hands match beautifully on your example.
Where did you source those parts?
Cheers
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Knudsen1971
·The curved hands profile is something that may be in stock for a while, but most older "watchco" builds have flat hands profile I think.
Same as the vintage ones, some have curved, some flat tritium hands.
The case back font is a pity of course, such a small detail. But this is not a first time the have screw this detail up. There is an old service caseback with ref 166.0024, that has the sharp A too. Then the "watchco" caseback with correct flat A and now again a sharp A.
I think if the manufactures are following the old blueprints only, where not every detail is specified, for example the lug shape or bezel font, this variations may happen. For example the Seamaster 300 1957 Trilogy is laser scan of vintage case, so is more close to the vintage model.
Also what can be seen on both versions of these service cases and bezels, they are more like die cast made with machining work made mostly inside the case; have doubts if it is a L316 steel as only caseback is probably.
What would be interesting, if somebody with vintage and also watchco Sm 300 can weight the watch heads, I assume the vintage head will be heavier.
My source is a certified watchmaker with access to the parts. Nobody from this forum, it is NOT Archer 😀
Same as the vintage ones, some have curved, some flat tritium hands.
The case back font is a pity of course, such a small detail. But this is not a first time the have screw this detail up. There is an old service caseback with ref 166.0024, that has the sharp A too. Then the "watchco" caseback with correct flat A and now again a sharp A.
I think if the manufactures are following the old blueprints only, where not every detail is specified, for example the lug shape or bezel font, this variations may happen. For example the Seamaster 300 1957 Trilogy is laser scan of vintage case, so is more close to the vintage model.
Also what can be seen on both versions of these service cases and bezels, they are more like die cast made with machining work made mostly inside the case; have doubts if it is a L316 steel as only caseback is probably.
What would be interesting, if somebody with vintage and also watchco Sm 300 can weight the watch heads, I assume the vintage head will be heavier.
My source is a certified watchmaker with access to the parts. Nobody from this forum, it is NOT Archer 😀
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe curved hands profile is something that may be in stock for a while, but most older "watchco" builds have flat hands profile I think.
Having serviced many "Watchco" watches, and converted quite a few, the hands have all been curved.
Also what can be seen on both versions of these service cases and bezels, they are more like die cast made with machining work made mostly inside the case; have doubts if it is a L316 steel as only caseback is probably.
These are not die cats parts.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for Rentdie cats.
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Davidt
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··Omega Qualified Watchmaker
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AriTheWatchmaker
·316L is one if the most available stainless steels out there- free machining and as archer and others have pointed out, its about $1 or less worth of material in a case and case back.
Sad about the bezel numerals and caseback lettering of the new s300 cases...just looks like a chinese fake as its common to mess up the font to avoid infringement on particular items...
Lets see what I get when the 166.0324 bezel I ordered this month arrives for my customer!
Change is part of life I suppose
Sad about the bezel numerals and caseback lettering of the new s300 cases...just looks like a chinese fake as its common to mess up the font to avoid infringement on particular items...
Lets see what I get when the 166.0324 bezel I ordered this month arrives for my customer!
Change is part of life I suppose
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Knudsen1971
·Bezels if ordered separately are still the older watchco style. I ordered/got mine in june , so there is still some stock of the older service bezels.
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ChrisN
·The bezel aligns the indices maybe better than the older style of bezel, which was know for no being 100% aligned too. I reality it is hard to see, depends on the angle, but I have no issue with that at all, photos makes it maybe worse than is the reality.
The hands are not bent, but curved in profile. Can be seen as having different light reflection than the flat ones.
As can be seen on some historical hand sets.
@Ernest(Europe) - a new case will be a lot more than that but, I suspect your post will be deleted anyway as it's a wanted to buy. You could try eBay?
Cheers, Chris
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