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M Mehdiuz
Well I know that no one has sayed using the exact wording that I've used ...but that my understanding of quite few posts, whenever there is a reality statement in a forum like this which is not followed by a personal opinion for me it's a consent...with which I don't have a problem the onky thing is yhat I'm part of people that aren't happy with it,anyway

Well, that's your way of looking at things, but clearly it does not reflect the opinions of people here, so my advice would be to stop projecting this onto us, and read what we actually write.

M Mehdiuz
My plan is to find a way to make our voice heard
Let's start a petition in avaaz for example and if we are a lot of omega lovers signing it ...it may result in something at least the swatch group will know what we are thinking us the costumers without whim the brand will simply disappear

Let me know where to sign the petition - I'm looking forward to participating in your efforts, so please make sure to post them here.


M Mehdiuz
Well thank you very much for the part number byt imight be was expecting to much (ahummm was waiting for a lead ti supplier who has them....) But if you don't have one thanks alot I really appreciate your help

I gave you exactly what you asked for...

"The particular bracelet ref is 020ST1155146 I'd be grateful if you could give me the part number for the links please as I will try tonsource either one i Could find."

I don't have one in stock, but I can certainly order them directly from Omega. As I've already stated, any AD, boutique, or service center should sell you this link as these parts are not restricted in any way by Omega. I don't know where you are located or where you are comfortable purchasing from, however using a simple Google search it took me about 3 seconds to find this:

http://www.ofrei.com/page1277.html

I would agree that you are expecting too much if you expect us to do all the work for you mate...

Cheers, Al
 
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M Mehdiuz
My plan is to find a way to make our voice heard
Let's start a petition in avaaz for example and if we are a lot of omega lovers signing it ...it may result in something at least the swatch group will know what we are thinking us the costumers without whim the brand will simply disappear
You really don’t understand how the Swiss do business. You could have a petition with a million signatures and it won’t matter to them.

That attitude almost ruined the Swiss watch industry in the 1970’s. If it wasn’t for Mr. Hayek and Swatch, there likely would be no more Swiss watches today.

I wish you good luck, but I think that Don Quixote would have a better chance at changing their minds on this.
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Archer Archer
Well, that's your way of looking at things, but clearly it does not reflect the opinions of people here, so my advice would be to stop projecting this onto us, and read what we actually write.



Let me know where to sign the petition - I'm looking forward to participating in your efforts, so please make sure to post them here.




I gave you exactly what you asked for...

"The particular bracelet ref is 020ST1155146 I'd be grateful if you could give me the part number for the links please as I will try tonsource either one i Could find."

I don't have one in stock, but I can certainly order them directly from Omega. As I've already stated, any AD, boutique, or service center should sell you this link as these parts are not restricted in any way by Omega. I don't know where you are located or where you are comfortable purchasing from, however using a simple Google search it took me about 3 seconds to find this:

http://www.ofrei.com/page1277.html

I would agree that you are expecting too much if you expect us to do all the work for you mate...

Cheers, Al
I think there is a glitch in the communication here or maybe i didn't explain my self as clear as I would have thought
I've been looking for the bracelet itself for few weeks before starting this topic so I wasn't expecting you to do all my work for me but you have kindly proposed to see the availablability as i provided the part number for it for wchich I ... isn't mate, btw i had already contacted ofrei for the bracelet as my research lead me to the fact that they had it at some point
Here is an extract of their response and I quote Bob Ofrei here
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We do not have this Omega item and can no longer get any Omega items. Our website contains all the Omega items we can still supply.

At the end of 2015, the Swatch Group which owns Omega stopped all distributions worldwide to independent watch parts suppliers and watch repair material persons. Since 1930 we have been able to get Omega parts. Now after 85 years we are no longer able to get more Omega parts.

You will need to contact the Swatch service center for help.
[\QUOTE] which is the main reason for starting this topic btw
failing to find the bracelet itself I'll
Start looking for the link which I'll be add to the
Not in do goid condition bracelet that I already have

So when I gave you the part number that I already had I was expecting something like I have or here's where you can buy one...not exactly you doing my work for me mate

But don't get me wrrong here and let me make myself cleare here...iam grateful for your help indeed
Peace
Mehdi
 
gatorcpa
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Let's get something straight here. It is highly doubtful that any of the independent suppliers ever had these bracelet in stock. More likely, these were special order items that they could get from Omega once they had received payment from a consumer. All that has changed is that now, these items can only be ordered from Omega through one of their boutiques, if Omega has any at all. In many cases, these older bracelets are gone forever, even from Omega.

Ofrei was pretty good about updating their site when Omega discontinued an item. Now, that is no longer of any consequence. If Ofrei (or Cousins in the UK) has run out of an item, it's a good bet that no one has it anymore.

This practice is par for the course with the more expensive parts like bracelets and cases. The watch companies only made so many spares and after a certain number of years, they simply stopped producing them. Just because Omega has assigned a part number to it, doesn't mean that there are any more left in Switzerland or at a boutique.

If you think that the Swiss are the only ones that have adopted this procedure, go try to find spare parts for any Seiko watch.
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You really don’t understand how the Swiss do business. You could have a petition with a million signatures and it won’t matter to them.

That attitude almost ruined the Swiss watch industry in the 1970’s. If it wasn’t for Mr. Hayek and Swatch, there likely would be no more Swiss watches today.

I wish you good luck, but I think that Don Quixote would have a better chance at changing their minds on this.
gatorcpa
You’re right... I don't get how they do business and honestly it doesn't really matter
Do you think that because they fo it the way they do it we shouldn't at lezst let them know what we think about it...? could you please elaborate on how this almost ruined the industry in the 70? If you are referring to the quartz crisis... I'd understand them and time has proven that the ones who resisted the quartz were right if you are talking about something else I'd be very interested to know what it is
 
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M Mehdiuz
I think there is a glitch in the communication here or maybe i didn't explain my self as clear as I would have thought
I've been looking for the bracelet itself for few weeks before starting this topic so I wasn't expecting you to do all my work for me but you have kindly proposed to see the availablability as i provided the part number for it for wchich I ... isn't mate, btw i had already contacted ofrei for the bracelet as my research lead me to the fact that they had it at some point
Here is an extract of their response and I quote Bob Ofrei here
[\QUOTE]

We do not have this Omega item and can no longer get any Omega items. Our website contains all the Omega items we can still supply.

At the end of 2015, the Swatch Group which owns Omega stopped all distributions worldwide to independent watch parts suppliers and watch repair material persons. Since 1930 we have been able to get Omega parts. Now after 85 years we are no longer able to get more Omega parts.

You will need to contact the Swatch service center for help.
[\QUOTE] which is the main reason for starting this topic btw
failing to find the bracelet itself I'll
Start looking for the link which I'll be add to the
Not in do goid condition bracelet that I already have

So when I gave you the part number that I already had I was expecting something like I have or here's where you can buy one...not exactly you doing my work for me mate

But don't get me wrrong here and let me make myself cleare here...iam grateful for your help indeed
Peace
Mehdi

You were definitely not clear on what you wanted from me - you asked for part numbers of the links. You already had the part number for the bracelet, so why did you ask me for part numbers you didn't need? At no time did you ask me to supply it to you. I am not a parts supplier, so I don't keep expensive bracelets that I may never sell in stock, and my business is not to sell parts to random strangers who ask me for them.

As has been said many times in this thread, you can buy a bracelet, links, clasps, etc. from an Omega AD, boutique, or other point of retail sales. I don't know where you are located, but I would again suggest contacting one of these locations and asking them to sell you a bracelet - they are not restricted parts.

You are making this far more complicated than it needs to be...
 
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M Mehdiuz
I'd understand them and time has proven that the ones who resisted the quartz were right
I don't know about "resisting the quartz". They simply lacked the ability to change their business model to adapt to it.

They got lucky that beginning around 2000, the wristwatch became less of a tool and more of a fashion accessory than it was prior to the 1970's. Now, even that trend is cooling off.

The Swiss will do what they want even if it is financial suicide. It would take another crisis and another Hayek (whom they listened to simply because he was [naturalized] Swiss and they had no other alternatives) to change their minds.

IMO, the Chinese will finish them off to the point that the designation of "Swiss Made" will be meaningless. Eventually, only the name on the dial will be Swiss.
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You were definitely not clear on what you wanted from me - you asked for part numbers of the links. You already had the part number for the bracelet, so why did you ask me for part numbers you didn't need? At no time did you ask me to supply it to you. I am not a parts supplier, so I don't keep expensive bracelets that I may never sell in stock, and my business is not to sell parts to random strangers who ask me for them.

As has been said many times in this thread, you can buy a bracelet, links, clasps, etc. from an Omega AD, boutique, or other point of retail sales. I don't know where you are located, but I would again suggest contacting one of these locations and asking them to sell you a bracelet - they are not restricted parts.

You are making this far more complicated than it needs to be...
Dear random stranger‚
The topic is not about me finding this bracelet but about the fact that I have to go to omega boutique, AD ...to buy accessories or service my watches due to lack of spart parts to the independent watchmakers
If you read what's wriiten on ofrei website that you referred to earlier thry say that they are able to duply only what they have in stock vas Omega is not selling them nothing anymore
Im complicating nothing I just find this to be wrrong....its like buying a car and nit being ablevto take it to the mechanic of your choice for repair because the parts are only available with the manufacturer....
 
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I just find this to be wrrong....its like buying a car and nit being ablevto take it to the mechanic of your choice for repair because the parts are only available with the manufacturer....
That is only because most car dealers are independent of the factory and also because the dealers successfully lobbied their respective legislatures to make sure that they could sell parts to anyone they wanted.

Tesla came along with a different business model. One very similar to the Boutique system that many of the Swiss companies use now.

Tesla dealers are owned by Tesla. For this reason, Tesla dealers have been banned in some states and allowed in others.

Just try to get Tesla to sell your mechanic a spare part. Good luck with that.
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M Mehdiuz
Dear random stranger‚
The topic is not about me finding this bracelet but about the fact that I have to go to omega boutique, AD ...to buy accessories or service my watches due to lack of spart parts to the independent watchmakers
If you read what's wriiten on ofrei website that you referred to earlier thry say that they are able to duply only what they have in stock vas Omega is not selling them nothing anymore
Im complicating nothing I just find this to be wrrong....its like buying a car and nit being ablevto take it to the mechanic of your choice for repair because the parts are only available with the manufacturer....

Still waiting for the petition, so when you get that set-up, let us know. Unlike gatorcpa I don't think this is a completely fruitless thing to do. Up until now all the noise about this has been coming from watchmakers, but it's very easy for Omega and the other brands to ignore watchmakers. Only pressure from the watch owners and potential customers will have any impact on them, and the biggest impact you can have is to stop buying their watches as you said initially that you would and let them know why. Unfortunately most people want the watch more than they care about how it gets serviced.

And to clarify, Omega still sells parts to independent watchmakers, but directly and not through 3rd party parts resellers. I would bet good money that if Otto Frei had the bracelet you are after, they would be charging you more for it than your Omega AD would charge...
 
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So the states thst have banned Tesla did it because they didn't accept the fact that this business model takes out consumer rights ?...why is it ok when it comes to time pieces? Did the same states ban Omega
or Rolex... I don't think so
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Still waiting for the petition, so when you get that set-up, let us know. Unlike gatorcpa I don't think this is a completely fruitless thing to do. Up until now all the noise about this has been coming from watchmakers, but it's very easy for Omega and the other brands to ignore watchmakers. Only pressure from the watch owners and potential customers will have any impact on them, and the biggest impact you can have is to stop buying their watches as you said initially that you would and let them know why. Unfortunately most people want the watch more than they care about how it gets serviced.

And to clarify, Omega still sells parts to independent watchmakers, but directly and not through 3rd party parts resellers. I would bet good money that if Otto Frei had the bracelet you are after, they would be charging you more for it than your Omega AD would charge...
You have just enlightened me....so you as watchmaker can still buy whatever you need from omega but a distributor can not
In other words the distributors were cut for obvious reasons I guess (the distributors profits is in omega pocket now)
And is it any watchmaker thst can buy part or is only the ones who have been accredited by Omega becesude they have benn through omega training ?

For the petition it will come.. get your pen ready
 
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Why is it ok when it comes to time pieces? Did the same states ban Omega
Because small independent jewelers don't have the money to spend on $1,000 an hour lobbyists like the auto dealers do.

In 'Murica, we play by the golden rule...He who has the gold, makes the rules.

Been that way since July 5, 1776.
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For the petition it will come.. get your pen ready
Good luck to you with your petition, hopefully it will have more success than Cousins' legal action against Swatch.
 
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Perhaps do a search on the forum. The topic of who can/can't get parts from who, with/without what qualifications etc etc has been covered numerous times.
 
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Haha! Throw Rolex in there while you are at it.
Not interested on getting Rolex parts...are you?
Then please go ahead and do whatever you want

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Excuse me but this topic is about watches nit appeles
 
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