Omega Panda Tokyo 2020 or New Panda Chronoscope

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I'm looking to add a Omega Panda to my collection. Having a hard time deciding between a 2020 Tokyo Panda or the New Panda Chronoscope. Buying as a daily wear in watch rotation. Any thoughts on which one to choose would be appreciated. Also if anyone is selling a 2020 Tokyo please PM me. Thanks in advance.
 
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Different movements, different sizes, both will present themselves differently on the wrist. Have you tried a Chronoscope and the normal 40 mm Speedmaster on your wrist to see which one you prefer? That's where I'd start.
 
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Different movements, different sizes, both will present themselves differently on the wrist. Have you tried a Chronoscope and the normal 40 mm Speedmaster on your wrist to see which one you prefer? That's where I'd start.

I own the Tokyo Rising Sun at 42 mm it fits nicely. I tried on the 43mm Chronoscope on at the AD and it's also a good fit. Both great watches IMO, just not sure which one to buy as I'm fairly new to Omega watches.
 
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Admitting my bias, and that I’ve been wrong before: I believe the Chronoscope is a hybrid that probably shouldn’t have occurred.

Searching this forum for discussions on the Chronoscope will provide many for and against takes on this new model.
 
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You already have the Tokyo Rising Sun so the Tokyo Panda is just a different look, but the same feel. An alternative, if you want variety would be the Apollo 35th Anniversary. Both will probably hold their value better than the Chronoscope.

The Chronoscope looks to fit you well so it’s down to what you prefer the look of and if value retention is important for you.

Some pics for comparison

 
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You already have the Tokyo Rising Sun so the Tokyo Panda is just a different look, but the same feel. An alternative, if you want variety would be the Apollo 35th Anniversary. Both will probably hold their value better than the Chronoscope.

The Chronoscope looks to fit you well so it’s down to what you prefer the look of and if value retention is important for you.

Some pics for comparison

Beautiful collection and great pics. Thank you
 
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Beautiful collection and great pics. Thank you
Thanks, but to be clear, I don’t own a Chronoscope…..only it’s clasp on my Snoopy.
 
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Thanks, but to be clear, I don’t own a Chronoscope…..only it’s clasp on my Snoopy.
I guess the Snoopy would be the best choice to own out of the bunch, very nice. Do you own the Panda Tokyo 2020 ?
 
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I guess the Snoopy would be the best choice to own out of the bunch, very nice. Do you own the Panda Tokyo 2020 ?

If you are looking at a Panda in the classic silver dial with black subdials layout I don't think the Snoopy would be the best choice to own. Its theme is blue, just like the LE CK 2998. Blue is good, but it's not a classic Panda dial. The Mitsukoshi, the 35th Apollo 11 or the Tokyo 2020 Panda (black subdials and black tachy) are all possibilities and will give you 'the' look. I'm in with a 35th Apollo 11 mod on a black Snoopy 45th cordura strap.
 
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If you are looking at a Panda in the classic silver dial with black subdials layout I don't think the Snoopy would be the best choice to own. Its theme is blue, just like the LE CK 2998. Blue is good, but it's not a classic Panda dial. The Mitsukoshi, the 35th Apollo 11 or the Tokyo 2020 Panda (black subdials and black tachy) are all possibilities and will give you 'the' look. I'm in with a 35th Apollo 11 mod on a black Snoopy 45th cordura strap.
Sweet watch, now that's a real keeper.. With the limited runs on Mitsukoshi and Apollo 11, I believe they might be out of my reach. I think there's enough Tokyo 2020 Panda's out there if I decide to go that route. The draw for me on the New Chronoscope is it's brand new with full 5 year warranty. But it seems like the Omega crowd isn't to fond of it. So when all the hype calms down it I might take hit if I ever decide to sell.
 
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Sweet watch, now that's a real keeper.. With the limited runs on Mitsukoshi and Apollo 11, I believe they might be out of my reach. I think there's enough Tokyo 2020 Panda's out there if I decide to go that route. The draw for me on the New Chronoscope is it's brand new with full 5 year warranty. But it seems like the Omega crowd isn't to fond of it. So when all the hype calms down it I might take hit if I ever decide to sell.
I just did a quick search on Chrono24 for reference 522.30.42.30.04.001 (the Tokyo 2020 Panda), I count 20 available and the prices range from about $11,100 to $16,000. Even discounting for a final sale price they are pretty pricey, far more than the other four versions in the Tokyo 2020 Speedmaster lineup. None of the true LE's from the 300 Mitsukoshi, 3,500 Apollo 11 35th, or the 2,020 Tokyo Speedmaster Pandas are cheap. But that is why the mod option was so popular, and why Omega finally put the kibosh on the selling of these dials and hands as replacement items. Someone who just liked the look of a panda dial could source the dial and hands for not a lot of money and have their watch guy do the swap in under an hour. That avenue is now pretty much closed off.

I've only cursorily looked at the Chronoscope at an OB, the dials just didn't grab me, they are too old fashioned for my taste. Hopefully Omega will update them eventually to a more conventional dial. But it's hard to beat an attractive three register Speedmaster.
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I just did a quick search on Chrono24 for reference 522.30.42.30.04.001 (the Tokyo 2020 Panda), I count 20 available and the prices range from about $11,100 to $16,000. Even discounting for a final sale price they are pretty pricey, far more than the other four versions in the Tokyo 2020 Speedmaster lineup. None of the true LE's from the 300 Mitsukoshi, 3,500 Apollo 11 35th, or the 2,020 Tokyo Speedmaster Pandas are cheap. But that is why the mod option was so popular, and why Omega finally put the kibosh on the selling of these dials and hands as replacement items. Someone who just liked the look of a panda dial could source the dial and hands for not a lot of money and have their watch guy do the swap in under an hour. That avenue is now pretty much closed off.

I've only cursorily looked at the Chronoscope at an OB, the dials just didn't grab me, they are too old fashioned for my taste. Hopefully Omega will update them eventually to a more conventional dial. But it's hard to beat an attractive three register Speedmaster.

Agree, the three register Speedmaster Panda is a gorgeous time piece. If both were brand new watches at the same price and same 5 year warranty, I'd definitely go for the 2020 Tokyo. I was able to find a unworn one with a couple years left on warranty for around $12k. So I guess it comes down to is it worth $3k more and 3 years less of warranty for the 3 register. I also have to take into account the Chronoscope's new bracelet is supposedly alot more comfortable and has a new movement (not sure if that's a good or bad thing). Personally I don't mind the busy dial on the Chronoscope, I think it makes the watch more interesting and I do like the splash of red in the dial. But admittedly that 3 Register Panda is show stopper.
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I own 2 of the Tokyo’s so far (rising sun and green dial). I’ve also tried on each of the versions of the chronoscope. I love the look of the panda chronoscope but in reality something abt the chrono scopes just feels a bit “cheap” to me.

Id go with the Tokyo. The chronoscope isn’t limited so it’s gonna be around if you want it later
 
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Agree, the three register Speedmaster Panda is a gorgeous time piece. If both were brand new watches at the same price and same 5 year warranty, I'd definitely go for the 2020 Tokyo. I was able to find a unworn one with a couple years left on warranty for around $12k. So I guess it comes down to is it worth $3k more and 3 years less of warranty for the 3 register. I also have to take into account the Chronoscope's new bracelet is supposedly alot more comfortable and has a new movement (not sure if that's a good or bad thing). Personally I don't mind the busy dial on the Chronoscope, I think it makes the watch more interesting and I do like the splash of red in the dial. But admittedly that 3 Register Panda is show stopper.
I wouldn't worry about losing three years of warranty on a Tokyo 2020, the 1861 movement is pretty bulletproof, if anything goes wrong it will show up in the remaining two years. And before July 2018 the standard warranty was only two years anyway.

Bracelets are personal so only you can assess that, I usually don't wear my Speedmasters on the stock ones, normally preferring leather.
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I wouldn't worry about losing three years of warranty on a Tokyo 2020, the 1861 movement is pretty bulletproof, if anything goes wrong it will show up in the remaining two years. And before July 2018 the standard warranty was only two years anyway.

Bracelets are personal so only you can assess that, I usually don't wear my Speedmasters on the stock ones, normally preferring leather.

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Again admitting my biases here, the remaining warranty is a feel-good perk but of little quantifiable value when it comes to the 1861 movement. Note also that all 2020 instances of the Tokyo LEs were already produced for sale as of 2018, so it’s not as though they haven’t all been at least sitting on a shelf somewhere since 2018 (that is, it’s not as though there are any that rollled off the production line more recent than others).

if you go with the chrono with the new movement, value that warranty; if you instead go with the Tokyo, the remaining two years is a perk but almost certainly irrelevant.
 
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In my search for a Omega Panda, I came across a Rolex (Paul Newman version). I had to do a double take, especially at a $101,200 price tag. It uncanny how this looks like the Omega Panda's.
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