Omega Grand Ploprof

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If it has been put together by someone out of new parts, it is not a NOS watch - it's a pile of parts turned into a watch.
I see your point of view.

That said. ALL WATCHES are pile of parts put together.


I’m afraid we will agree to disagree on what makes NOS.

If they bought the parts from omega then it is an omega in my heart. Were it matters.

As long as it doesn’t have a miyota movement inside. I don’t care if the watch is original.

Thank you all for the feedback and for the warm welcome.

I’ll look into that bracelet that someone mentioned 1163/172 and thank you all for the information.
Cheers and merry Xmas.
 
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You can believe whatever you like.

The fact remains that going and buying new parts from the swatch group, finding a movement, and assembling them together into a watch, does not make a New Old Stock Watch.

It makes a load of brand new (not old stock parts) that are currently in production, and an old movement that may, or may not have come from the correct reference.

This is not a pile of parts that left Omega as a complete watch.

And that’s fine, as long as you know what you’ve bought, and you don’t try to pass it off as anything other than what it is, should you ever choose to sell.
 
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I think you all misunderstand the op. This watch was assembled in Italy by De Marchi. That makes it legit. Q.E.D. 😉
 
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Did you mean a ploprof ? Or did you mean the Seamaster 1000 ..if the later then it never came with a 1002 caliber and it only came on the offshore mesh bracelet

There was never a retail issued 1002 caliber and any NOS with that caliber is built up from service parts and is not an authentic watch
So you are saying that uwsearch is wrong when he says the 1002 is correct?
 
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You can believe whatever you like.

The fact remains that going and buying new parts from the swatch group, finding a movement, and assembling them together into a watch, does not make a New Old Stock Watch.

It makes a load of brand new (not old stock parts) that are currently in production, and an old movement that may, or may not have come from the correct reference.

This is not a pile of parts that left Omega as a complete watch.

And that’s fine, as long as you know what you’ve bought, and you don’t try to pass it off as anything other than what it is, should you ever choose to sell.


Thank you. I don’t think i tried passing it as anything. If a company that use to repair omegas as licensed by omega builds me a watch using original parts... that’s a risk I’m willing to take. I believe the watch to be authentic yet I don’t claim it is original. So we can agree to disagree

Amazingly enough only one person read my post and answered my question 🙁

Any possible bracelet alternatives to use with this watch would be what I’m looking for.

Thank you all for giving me feedback on the watchco situation which we are all very aware of.

My pile of omega parts needs a period correct, nicely fitted 22mm links bracelet so I’m looking for some suggestions in that department.

I’m very happy with the purchase!
 
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So you are saying that uwsearch is wrong when he says the 1002 is correct?
I don’t want to step on anyone’s toes here....

I didn’t say the watch is a collectors piece or anything.

Let’s call it new new stock for all I care.

I want to pick the pros brain here and people with experience to see if there is a links bracelet I can throw at this thing that fits and goes with the look. The ploprof 600 has one.. I had hoped the grand had one also.

It looks like I’m wrong.

Cheers all.
 
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Thank you. I don’t think i tried passing it as anything. If a company that use to repair omegas as licensed by omega builds me a watch using original parts... that’s a risk I’m willing to take. I believe the watch to be authentic yet I don’t claim it is original. So we can agree to disagree

Amazingly enough only one person read my post and answered my question 🙁

Any possible bracelet alternatives to use with this watch would be what I’m looking for.

Thank you all for giving me feedback on the watchco situation which we are all very aware of.

My pile of omega parts needs a period correct, nicely fitted 22mm links bracelet so I’m looking for some suggestions in that department.

I’m very happy with the purchase!

Glad you are happy with the purchase. Just to clarify I have no problems with using old movements in new cases - I have a Watchco SM300 myself and it's a great watch for people like me, who don't want to get into the vintage SM300's and want something I can knock around and not worry too much about the value as I wear it. The problem is claiming that the watch is NOS, as that has a specific meaning that does not apply to your watch as you originally stated:

"hi its a NOS watch ref 166.093 with the 1002 calibre."

A true NOS watch is one that was assembled for sale decades ago, and was never sold for some reason. If you want to see examples of truly NOS watches, look at this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-nos-thread.7352/

Note the disclaimer in the first post that specifically rules out the kind of watch you have from being posted in this thread.

In the end it's Watchco/abouttime.ch that creates this confusion with people, and it's unfortunate that they continue to use the "NOS" claim on many parts that I'm sure were made in the last year or two...

Cheers, Al
 
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Glad you are happy with the purchase. Just to clarify I have no problems with using old movements in new cases - I have a Watchco SM300 myself and it's a great watch for people like me, who don't want to get into the vintage SM300's and want something I can knock around and not worry too much about the value as I wear it. The problem is claiming that the watch is NOS, as that has a specific meaning that does not apply to your watch as you originally stated:

"hi its a NOS watch ref 166.093 with the 1002 calibre."

A true NOS watch is one that was assembled for sale decades ago, and was never sold for some reason. If you want to see examples of truly NOS watches, look at this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-nos-thread.7352/

Note the disclaimer in the first post that specifically rules out the kind of watch you have from being posted in this thread.

In the end it's Watchco/abouttime.ch that creates this confusion with people, and it's unfortunate that they continue to use the "NOS" claim on many parts that I'm sure were made in the last year or two...

Cheers, Al

Perfect. I shall call it new stock.

I’m assuming the cases for the ploprof 1000 are still being manufactured and the calibre 1002/1012 are still being made.

I’m sorry I used the term NoS.

My new stock grand needs help! Lol

Thank you I’ll be more careful.

Should I just say “watchco” seamaster 1000?

I don’t think calling them fakes is fair either.
 
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We need more people like @Vakane. How nice to see someone not throwing a hissy fit because he's in opposition to what the majority thinks about some trivial matter in this tiny corner of the internet. Hope you find what you're looking for, Vakane! 👍
 
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Perfect. I shall call it new stock.

I’m assuming the cases for the ploprof 1000 are still being manufactured and the calibre 1002/1012 are still being made.

I’m sorry I used the term NoS.

My new stock grand needs help! Lol

Thank you I’ll be more careful.

Should I just say “watchco” seamaster 1000?

I don’t think calling them fakes is fair either.

Definitely not fakes - just not a factory original Seamaster 1000m

The movement is very unlikely to be a new one - watchco are known for putting old (sometimes serviced, sometimes not) movements into new bodies (case/dial/hands etc.) and selling as NOS.

Is the lug width 22mm or 24mm?

There's a brand new 22mm mesh on eBay at the moment (UK seller), and I think they're still available from Omega new (which is often cheapeer than eBay!) - since the case is new, I think a brand new bracelet would look great. 👍

You could also look for an Isofrane band - http://isofrane.com/

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Definitely not fakes - just not a factory original Seamaster 1000m

The movement is very unlikely to be a new one - watchco are known for putting old (sometimes serviced, sometimes not) movements into new bodies (case/dial/hands etc.) and selling as NOS.

Is the lug width 22mm or 24mm?

There's a brand new 22mm mesh on eBay at the moment (UK seller), and I think they're still available from Omega new (which is often cheapeer than eBay!) - since the case is new, I think a brand new bracelet would look great. 👍

You could also look for an Isofrane band - http://isofrane.com/

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it’s 22mm

I have the mesh. First thing I did was remove the seatbelt buckle and put the modern ploprof clasp I own. I only had to use thinner spring bars of the same length.


I will absolutely get an isofrane. I’ll do dark blue because I’m not confident enough to do orange lol

I have a ton of straps that are curved//fitted from my PO... I might just modify those to fit my watch.
 
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I will absolutely get an isofrane. I’ll do dark blue because I’m not confident enough to do orange lol

The Isofrane aren't cheap, but they are insanely comfortable, and look amazing on the watch.

These guys belong to @LiquidSolid

 
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The Isofrane aren't cheap, but they are insanely comfortable, and look amazing on the watch.

These guys belong to @LiquidSolid

Wow black on the blue dial still looks amazing.

Dammit now I need a black and an orange since dark blue and black are too similar!
 
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Should I just say “watchco” seamaster 1000?

I don’t think calling them fakes is fair either.

People call the SM300's "Watchco" so that's fair. No one said your watch was a fake...just not a proper NOS watch.

Note that the movements used are old, and often from completely different watches as I've already noted. So they pull a movement from an old DeVille or something, and stick it into the desired case.
 
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Similar case, and it should give you a good idea what it would look like on a link type braclet.

1162/172
22mm


 
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Similar case, and it should give you a good idea what it would look like on a link type braclet.

1162/172
22mm


Thank you I will definitely keep an eye out for it in ebay!
 
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Thank you for the info. To my understanding the seamaster 1000 is “also”” known as the grand ploprof.

So that’s why I refer to it that way. I’ve always seen them in mesh and I’ve seen the rubber extension. I’ve seen the seamaster 600 in a bracelet as well but that is a 24mm bracelet. I was curious to see if a 22mm bracelet ever existed for the seamaster 1000.

Omega records indicate it’s nos piece with a 1012 (pretty much same movement as the 1002 but with more jewels and a few minor issues addressed).

Thank you all for chiming in. It’s 5:47 am but I will put up some lousy pics until proper pics can be taken.



This last pic is of my straps I’ve accumulated over the years for my planet oceans xl (I owned the 2500 and the 8500)

And now I’m planning of modifying them to fit the no curves shoulders of the grand.

Thank you all for your replies and sorry for the confusion.
Are those genuine Omega deployant clasps?
 
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Are those genuine Omega deployant clasps?
I think i Have one that is not original.

Easy to catch since it has the same shape but it doesn’t have the omega logo and it closes much wider than the original one. (I also feel it’s larger) but it was a gift so I didn’t throw it away.

But yea everything else is original.

That’s around 6 years of buying and collecting scrap on WUS forums. I have a a polished and a satin etc... some fro my Chrono Po first gen some for my 8500 po some for my speedie and such.

Now days I’m down to an AT and the new stock lol
 
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Are those genuine Omega deployant clasps?

Sorry I should be more specific.

All those pictured here are genuine like my watch and my straps. Although I bought a lot of stuff from ofrei so maybe it’s not considered original lol